#indieweb 2021-05-19

2021-05-19 UTC
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[chrisaldrich]
Has anyone played around with PubPub before? https://www.pubpub.org/ Describes itself as: "The open-source, privacy-respecting, all-in-one collaborative publishing platform for communities small and large."
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[chrisaldrich]
Sounds like it could be an interesting IndieWebby sort of project (and add some of the building blocks...)
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[chrisaldrich]
I've seen it before as a book publishing platform for an MIT project, but I'm not sure I had thought of using it to run a personal website (or a small community-based site before).
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doosboox
To everyone that attended the latest Homebrew Website Meetup in London: https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/looking-into-beautifulsoup4.html :)
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doosboox
https://fuchsnet.ch/freenode-resign-letter.txt <-- is freenode still the place to have channels? :/ I wasn't aware of this until now
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barnabywalters
seems like a topic for #indieweb-meta
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[Tim_Culverhous]
Good morning everyone! I made a webmention-powered forum - www.indieforums.net. I ran across news.indieweb.org a few weeks ago and that inspired the idea. I am *not* a programmer, so I'm hoping it works ok once it's more than just me testing it πŸ™‚
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doosboox
[Tim_Culverhous]: I love that idea!
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[Tim_Culverhous]
Thanks!
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milkii
Migration to libera.chat (once it stops getting ddosd by new users)? https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409
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petermolnar
milkii: -> #indieweb-meta, pls
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aaronpk
Also please don't spam multiple channels with the same message. There's already a long discussion this morning about that in meta.
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Loqi
hey petermolnar aaronpk: it seems like this conversation is more appropriate for #indieweb-dev
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[schmarty]
πŸ€”
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aaronpk
Loqi agrees
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aaronpk
haha yesss i need that map
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petermolnar
9500x6438 px, 19.1MB JPG (!) o.O
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[KevinMarks]
on sale in 2 sizes as a poster
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[KevinMarks]
shame it isn't an SVG you could search for words
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doosboox
aaronpk: yay!
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Loqi
πŸ˜ƒ
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[KevinMarks]
Does this sound familiar Tantek?
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petermolnar
whoever falls that - Google vs open web follows - again deserves it :(
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petermolnar
*falls for
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petermolnar
geez Peter, get your English together
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[KevinMarks]
They're saying RSS, though not exactly what they mean by RSS
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[KevinMarks]
wonder if it's built on feedburner
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[KevinMarks]
I've signed up for that meetup so lets see what we learn
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[chee]
i'm jealous of all these nice blogging (micropub) clients there are for macOS and iOS
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Loqi
RSS, Micropub... it looks like this conversation is getting pretty technical, can you take it to #indieweb-dev?
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[tantek]
In other news I saw an actual funny cookie banner:
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[tantek]
"We bake cookies in your browser for a better experience. Using this site means that you consent."
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[tantek]
there's also a cute black & white gingerbread person cookie in the top left preceding the text
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[tantek]
[KevinMarks] hah indeed
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barnabywalters
[tantek]: but is he made of cookie, or are the cookies made of flesh?
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[tantek]
wow that got dark quickly barnabwalters
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[tantek]
barnabywalters
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[KevinMarks]
lol the session link is already live, I can hear them doing a tech check
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petermolnar
for some reason I thought it was a "Are they made from real Girl Scouts?" reference
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[KevinMarks]
I wonder if they know about websub or if this a bunch of PMs learning anew
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jacky
I wanna say the latter
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jacky
because ~job security~
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petermolnar
+o aaronpk
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petermolnar
ok, that's not it
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petermolnar
I'll come back to this problem
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aaronpk
msg chanserv op #indieweb aaronpk
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aaronpk
oh wait that's only once it's registered
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aaronpk
should be "op #indieweb aaronpk"
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aaronpk
oh you're on xmpp too? well then
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Seirdy
any plans to migrate off fnode? https://kline.sh/
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barnabywalters
Seirdy: we’ve been discussing it a bit in #indieweb-meta and -chat
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Loqi
hey aaronpk barnabywalters, that's a lot of dev jargon! can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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barnabywalters
shut up Loqi
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sknebel
... what triggered Loqi here?
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aaronpk
"meta"
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sknebel
seriously?
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aaronpk
i'm gonna take that one out
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aaronpk
does not seem useful
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barnabywalters
Loqi’s so meta, that when I try to move conversation elsewhere, he tries to move the conversation elsewhere
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sknebel
yes please. Loqi feels way to jumpy with that...
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petermolnar
aaronpk: I think I succeeded
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Loqi
giggles
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aaronpk
Micropub API jargon test
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aaronpk
🚨 csrf detected 🚨
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aaronpk
ignore me :)
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[schmarty]
my kubernetes node servers are federated in failover microsub architecture
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[schmarty]
(too much? πŸ˜‚)
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barnabywalters
blockchain php python JSON plumbing
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barnabywalters
okay I think now maybe Loqi is being too generous :D
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aaronpk
it's working :) just still within the 30 minute throttling of that message
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KartikPrabhu
did someone say BLOCKCHAIN!!
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aaronpk
nobody to see here except us kubernetes node daemons
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Loqi
KartikPrabhu, aaronpk: we try to keep jargon (blockchain, daemons, Kubernetes) out of this channel to make it more inviting to newcomers, can you move this to #indieweb-dev?
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aaronpk
there we go :)
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sknebel
But is Kubernetes a vegetable?
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jacky
it's a type of potato, iirc
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barnabywalters
sknebel, jacky: we try to keep food (vegetable, potato) out of this channel to prevent people from getting hungry, can you move this to #indieweb-cooking?
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jacky
lmfaoo
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Seirdy
KartikPrabhu: ah, i love the smell of cryptographically-verified pyramid schemes in the morning...
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jackyalcine
what is the IndieWeb
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Loqi
The IndieWeb is a community of individual personal websites, connected by simple standards, based on the principles of owning your domain, using it as your primary identity, to publish on your own site (optionally syndicate elsewhere), and own your data https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb
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jackyalcine
oh hey Loqi
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aaronpk
oh lol i forgot that the way i did this it's logging these channels into the web interface too
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jackyalcine
ah that's fun, lol
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aaronpk
wait a second... why is that happening
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aaronpk
oh lmao
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[tantek]
barnabywalters++ that channel needs to exist
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Loqi
barnabywalters has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (8 in all channels)
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[chee]
question for people who use their blogs as a "commonplace book". do you also use it to keep notes that aren't public? publish private posts with things like letters and notes about people? also things like planning and prototyping: do you keep these notes inside the blog as private posts, or do you also have other accompanying notebooks?
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[chrisaldrich]
I definitely mix public and private on my site [chee]. I have also experimented with solely private notebooks as well. The key is to do what's easiest and most useful to you. If you do separate things and decide not to in the future (or vice versa) having easily exportable/movable data formats is an incredibly useful thing.
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[chrisaldrich]
I am experimenting for the past several months with an Obsidian-based private notebook with the intention of using the text-based (markdown) files as the basis of a publicly served notebook.
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[Murray]
[chee] not sure I'm fully a "commonplace book", but heading that way. Right now, I record lots which is "private" in that it's only stored in my CMS. I am actively working towards having those posts/notes etc. surfaced through the site, but behind some form of privacy shield (most likely some variation on IndieAuth), but it's still a long way off πŸ˜„ In terms of notes, though, those are all live and form a kind of sapling -> tree relationship with
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[Murray]
final articles quite often. If you search a specific term there's a clear trend of a spike in notes before a post πŸ˜‰
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[Murray]
but I also use WorkFlowy for very rough sketches and quick idea capturing; none of that is intended for long-term storage. Some of it gets copied across to notes/articles/private entries and then archived/deleted. So I guess that's an accompanying notebook πŸ™‚
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[Murray]
Oh, and for immediate note taking whilst reading, I use WorldBrain's Memex via the Firefox plugin, but that's literally note taking/annotating whilst reading and then immediately gets copied to a Note entry
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[chrisaldrich]
Note that if you're keeping multiple books, you need to be sure to search across all of them for finding what you want. Having everything in one place makes search/discovery easier typically.
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aaronpk
looks around at his 5 different digital organizing systems