#indieweb 2021-11-07
2021-11-07 UTC
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daiyi[d] Seb[d]: I couldn't figure uploading photos on quill it out. the "photo" field was a text field 😅 I'm assuming they want a url? that's not very usable for my workflow
# daiyi[d] Jamietanna1: wow the media proxy endpoint is very cool!
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# daiyi[d] [schmarty]: "Indigenous" is an unfortunate name for an app, it is not very searchable 😅
# daiyi[d] oh wait, I was looking in the app store, maybe it's a website?
# daiyi[d] hm I can't find Indigenous for iOS
# [tantek]1 what is Indigenous
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Loqi Indigenous is a set of native apps for iOS, Android currently in beta that supports posting your website using Micropub and a built-in reader that supports Microsub and ActivityPub (Android only) https://indieweb.org/Indigenous
# [tantek]1 ^ links there
# daiyi[d] woah magic
# daiyi[d] aw beans, the photos don't show up in the end. time to look at micropub server logs :)
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[schmarty] The name is very unfortunate 😔
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capjamesg[d] Naming things is hard.
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marksuth[d] Morning!
# marksuth[d] I'm also not a fan of the app name, re-naming indigenous to something that is more inclusive and easier to spell is something on the list.
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aaronpk feel free to add suggestions or votes here: https://indieweb.org/Indigenous#Renaming
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# Seb[d] to quote Jacob Hall on the wiki: "[...] and bring friends into the IndieWeb without needing to explain why the app is called Indigenous."
# Seb[d] maybe call it 'IndieWeb' then?
# Seb[d] (terrible name I know)
# Seb[d] but from an onboarding perspective that works: people just want an app to install.
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# [tantek]1 initially perhaps, ultimately people want some *choice* of app(s) to install.
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# [snarfed] garbage collecting old Bridgy responses is underway, docs are up at https://brid.gy/about#garbage-collecting
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[KevinMarks] Interesting, I've heard this too https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29140684
# capjamesg[d] That Instagram link thing is so annoying.
# [KevinMarks] Well, it creates demand for linktree etc - places that could be rel=me hubs
# [tantek]1 which Instagram link thing capjamesg[d]?
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# capjamesg[d] The fact that they don’t let you link in posts.
# capjamesg[d] I include a link to blog posts in almost every post and you can’t click on them.
# [tantek]1 aaronpk I saw that! I was wondering if I'd done something "special" to get it
# [tantek]1 do we have more folks POSSEing to Mastodon, or actually federating to it directly?
# [tantek]1 I'm trying to come up with six example POSSE destinations to redraw a diagram
# [tantek]1 or maybe it doesn't matter if federation is a form of "POSSEing"?
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# [tantek]1 different POSSE destinations have different levels of automatability (and similarly backfeed)
# [tantek]1 for Mastodon, my question is whether it is worth distinguishing (user-level? architecturally?) between using e.g. Fed.Bridgy vs "manually" cross-posting to a separate Mastodon account
# [tantek]1 also backfeed has a broad spectrum too, e.g. the Bridgy browser add-on method for IG backfeed is potentially risky for users getting their accounts locked right?
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# ax1 hi
# ax1 'people just want an app to install' the problem in one sentence
# ax1 i have a question, by this model, when you post on your own site, what do you recommend for that platform, wordpress? smol.pub?
# ax1 I tried to do this manually for two years btw and encountered only harassment and censorship at places like mastadon and twitter
# ax1 i made my username the link to my site mynamedotnet and encountered no one that even seemed real, much less interested in discusssion. i published four books, to d ate no evidence exists anyone in the world has read even the introduction to one of them
# ax1 so if i host my own site on my own server and my own domain, that costs about $150 a year, do wordpress plugins exist that will distribute what I post there?
# ax1 i expect harassment, it is the 100% bullshit 0% actual human interaction that is the problem
# ax1 there is a crisis of moderation though where on the most famous sites, the primary method of enforcement and control is through moderation bias
# ax1 moderators break the rules and are allowed to in order to disincentivise those who go against hive thinking from bothering to post, and dissuade the herd from thinking along similar lines
# ax1 i encountered it at around 20 platforms, i got exhausted trying new platforms
# ax1 what platforms do you recommend?
# ax1 im reading articles now on medium and twitter posse application
# ax1 i like the site and inspiration, it's needed, so im glad to see people building these tools and generally positive. like with many things, the propaganda is so intense, any 'indie' approach that is not co-opted, feels almost comicall futile. its still worth doing
# ax1 the nth attempt to create a media strategy as an independent creator though lacks the enthusiasm of the n-10th attempt
# ax1 i applaud your work, it may give me a reason to try my n+1 attempt, keep it up
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[chrisbergr] I don't know what topics you write about. Even here among the IndieWeb people, the discussions are mostly internet or technology oriented. Of course, no matter what platform you use, you need an audience to have proper discussions.
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