#indieweb 2022-05-18

2022-05-18 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] What is a challenge?
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Loqi challenge is an event-like post which serves as a (typically open) invitation for people to post achievements towards some goal, like running a total distance, or posting photos at some frequency (every day), supported by silos like Strava and micro.blog https://indieweb.org/challenge
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[chrisaldrich] challenge << [[User:www.maxwelljoslyn.com|Maxwell Joslyn]] hosted a "Sith Lord Challenge" on his personal website at https://www.maxwelljoslyn.com/sithlordchallenge and collected responses via [[Webmention]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[User:www.maxwelljoslyn.com|Maxwell Joslyn]] hosted a "Sith Lord Challenge" on his personal website at https://www.maxwelljoslyn.com/sithlordchallenge and collected responses via [[Webmention]]" to the "See Also" section of /challenge https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=81508&oldid=73426
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[chrisaldrich] GWG, some spitballing ideas and examples for you: https://boffosocko.com/2022/05/17/55805060/
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] GWG, Some random thoughts: Your challenge question is tough, not just for the mere discovery portion, but for the multiple other functions involved, particularly a “submit/reply” portion and a separate “I want to subscribe to something for fut...
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GWG I just saw the mention
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[chrisaldrich] I thought I'd crosspost here for others interested in your question and potential design.
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[chrisaldrich] !tell [jamesg483] On the experimental coffee poll https://jamesg.blog/2022/05/17/coffee-frequency/ my site wants to pull a non-existent reply context for the link you need to be mentioned to tally votes. I opted to use the original link to get the context and threw in a link to the response URL as well. Looks like Jeremy may have done the same, though this may point out a usability flaw in using many links like this. I suspect it
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[chrisaldrich] may have taken a lot more time to fashion your experiment this way too.
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Loqi [James] Poll: How much coffee you drink in a day?
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[chrisaldrich] [jamesg483]++ for experimenting
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[snarfed] [jamesg483] does your poll need a specific post type? I sent a like wm to one answer, https://snarfed.org/2022-05-17_2-3-cups-james-coffee-blog, and wm.io accepted it, https://webmention.io/jamesg.blog/webmention/8YQL_kRUtEtIM3byRyh8 , but it hasn't shown up on your post yet
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Loqi [Ryan Barrett] likes 2-3 cups | James’ Coffee Blog
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[jamesg483] I have your vote [snarfed].
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[jamesg483] The votes don’t actually show up anywhere just yet.
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[jamesg483] I have to build that feature.
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Zegnat I can usually find my way around the wiki, but now I seem to recall a concept that I cannot find at all. Maybe someone can help me. I seem to recall [tantek] talking about using a pattern like example.com/twitter to link to your twitter profile, and that way keep control over the URL even if twitter in the future would disappear. Did that end up on the wiki? Was it named anything?
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[tonz]1 I did that for a while for links to my github repo’s, because I saw it mentioned here as a way of doing things, no idea if it was documentend
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Zegnat Oh, yeah, I think I saw it discussed in GitHub context too. That way you could start hosting your code elsewhere and point a redirect to it at a later date, without needing to rewrite all other places that linked to the code.
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[tantek] yes we have discussed this before, and I believe somewhere on the wiki is my example of tantek.com/github
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[tantek] and not just for linking to a profile, but actually deep linking into e.g. projects, issues, pull requests etc.
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[jamesg483] I love that.
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[tantek] I've tried to do this with my pbwiki/pbworks pages too as part of a first step towards migrating them to my own site, though using /w/ as the path as a generic "wiki page" path rather than the name of the service
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[tantek] this is more doable because the URL structure is more generic, e.g. tantek.com/w/FrontPage (where "FrontPage" just happens to be the page name, so it's already flat even if those pages temporarily redirect at the service side currently)
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Zegnat I cannot find it on the wiki at all :( Any inkling of a recollection what I might need to search for, [tantek]?
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[tantek] Zegnat, a bit is documented here: https://indieweb.org/wiki-page#Tantek
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[tantek] and looks like we chatted about it at this HWC: https://indieweb.org/events/2021-03-24-hwc-americas
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Zegnat [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 10 karma in this channel over the last year (80 in all channels)
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Zegnat Thanks!
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[tantek] that being said, this has come up enough times that we should create a page or pages for it
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[tantek] let's take that to #indieweb-meta tho
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[jamesg483] tantek++ for the link idea.
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Loqi tantek has 11 karma in this channel over the last year (81 in all channels)
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[jamesg483] I have https://jamesg.blog/instagram/ and https://jamesg.blog/github/ now 🙂
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[tantek] nice! well done capjamesg++
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[jamesg483] Do you have deeper links tantek?
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[jamesg483] i.e. /github/<repo>
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[jamesg483] I’d like to set that up but will need to brainstorm how to make it work.
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[tantek] yes e.g. tantek.com/github/cassis
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[tantek] how to make it work is definitely #indieweb-dev talk
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[aciccarello] I have a hard time seeing myself actually use those links
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[aciccarello] Like if I set them up for my own site
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[tantek] aciccarello the point would be to always share those links instead of silo links so that in the future you could actually host the content yourself (replacing the redirect) and all the old links you shared would "just work" to transition folks to the canonical version on your site
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[jamesg483] Want to check out my GitHub? Go to jamesg.blog/github/ 😄
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[chrisaldrich] I didn't document names, but there were some who left Github (esp. after the acquisition) that moved to other platforms or to their own infrastructure and self-hosted work, and with this pattern, they could have kept their URLs and just redirected them certainly.
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gRegor Carried over from meta since it's on topic: Salt had links like that, though appears they're not live currently. Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20180307221801/http://altsalt.net/
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Loqi Wm Salt Hale
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] indeed, and for that it might be worth have more abstract paths like /git instead of /github which you could redirect to whichever platform/service you happen to be using, and migrate across them until you set up your own hosting
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[chrisaldrich] ^^ I like this pattern even better as it centers one's site and content over giving free advertising for a silo service.
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[tantek] It can, if the (redirect) destination paths are fairly generic (like the flat page names I use for my PBworks /w/ wiki pages). With GitHub it's more challenging as the subdirectories are all very particular to that service for individual files, issues, pull requests etc.
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[tantek] (straying a bit into #indieweb-dev territory there)
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