#indieweb 2022-06-22

2022-06-22 UTC
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[tantek] CathieLeblanc++ for a great article about photo posting flow: https://cathieleblanc.com/2022/06/21/photo-sharing-work-flow/
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[KevinMarks] Looks like twitter is coming after quill.p3k.io https://twitter.com/TwitterWrite/status/1539640956915290112
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@TwitterWrite ✨ Introducing: Notes ✨ We’re testing a way to write longer on Twitter. https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/FV3maNpXwAATubp.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1539640956915290112)
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jacky sheesh
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jacky it's really just twitter adding support for blog posts lol https://twitter.com/i/notes/1535469588846092288
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jacky like tbh they need to give in and go full AP at this rate lol
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[tantek] looool Twitter takes 16 years to reinvent Blogger
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[tantek] ahem, Blogspot
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[tantek] this seems concerning (for those of you with phones with these providers: https://twitter.com/WolfieChristl/status/1539022423345045504 )
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@WolfieChristl The largest European telcos including Vodafone, Deutsche Telekom, Telefonica and Orange are planning to attach so-called 'supercookies' to their customers, pseudonymous IDs based on mobile numbers and IPs. The system should allow many other companies to track and profile people. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVus7YkX0AIFgw0.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1539022423345045504)
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[fluffy] wow twitter notes look awful. I wonder what the timeline UX will be like, and if it’ll be any different than people just like. linking to their blog entries from their tweets like what most bloggers have been doing since approximately 2007.
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sknebel It won't be downranked by the algorithm for off-site links? 🙈
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[snarfed] [fluffy] agreed, I'm surprised they aren't integrated into timelines etc more natively. "tweet note" indeed. still early, maybe they will be eventually
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[tantek] [fluffy] clearly they'd rather rebuild Medium as a feature than buy it outright
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[tantek] (with much worse design / UX)
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gRegor Reminds me when Facebook added the articles feature and later removed it. iirc it even would import from your RSS feed.
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Zegnat "downranked by the algorithm for off-site links", I wish the silos would stop with that. Seems like all of them do it now? Even on LinkedIn I see people talk about "the link in the comments".
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[aciccarello] From a spam and lock-in perspective I can see why it's so common.
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[tantek] Oooh I wonder if that could be something to automate as part of POSSEing to Twitter, post a reply to your POSSE tweet with the “Original post: link”
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[tantek] Since the Algo deprioritizes those anyway, it's unlikely anyone will accidentally see them on their own while scrolling their feed
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[tantek] Would also give you ~23-24 more chars in your POSSE tweets
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aaronpk I've heard of people doing that with links to their blog posts
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aaronpk tweet with an image, then reply to it with a link to the actual blog post
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jacky ^ lol
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[KevinMarks]1 It's annoying that they are calling articles "notes" when thats what we call tweets
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[KevinMarks]1 [aaronpk] there was someone in the UK who became a top ranked politics tweeter by posting headlines from real news sites, with the link in the reply post
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aaronpk Hah
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[tantek] aaronpk, exactly. tweet your note/post etc with featured image, then reply to it immediately with "original post: permalink"
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Zegnat aaronpk: yeah, images seem to boost you algorithmically. So that makes sense. The behaviour is not limited to Twitter either
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[KevinMarks]1 I've also noticed uk journalists doing it with their paywalled stories - post a screen grab of a paragraph then link to the paywalled article subsequently
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jacky ^ I hate that :(
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Zegnat To be fair to the journalist, it will often not be them deciding what content gets the paywall
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jacky truee
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AramZ-S[m] And often they are doing that in order to share content from the article that most users will never sign up or pay to see
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AramZ-S[m] Amusingly, when I worked at Salon dot com we had a social media person who brought a ton of traffic to the site from Tumblr by just posting Salon Headlines as screenshots to our Tumblr account.
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AramZ-S[m] I do not understand why it worked, I think part of it was he did a lot of follow up interaction with people and Tumblr liked that.
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