#indieweb 2022-06-24

2022-06-24 UTC
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[tonz] I hadn’t realised Beaker had fallen by the wayside.
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[KevinMarks]1 Alex is worth a read today https://infrequently.org/2022/06/apple-is-not-defending-browser-engine-choice/
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sknebel AramZ-S[m]: re midjourney, that's not my blogpost, so no. I have been meaning to play with the free version, but not gotten around to it yet...
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jacky [tonz]: tbh I don't know if it's still maintained outside of Paul but I think it still gets updates
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sknebel jacky: https://github.com/beakerbrowser/beaker/discussions/1944#discussioncomment-1308779
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sknebel and last change dec 2020
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jacky to say it's "dead" is bad but 😅️
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Zegnat What is Beaker?
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Loqi Beaker is a browser supporting the Hypercore protocol, and notable as an example of making non-HTTP "distributed" protocols more user-friendly https://indieweb.org/Beaker
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IWDiscordGateway <capjamesg> 😦
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AramZ-S[m] I thought Beaker was still going, but even if it wasn't there are people who are taking that same approach in other software as well
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[KevinMarks]1 Do we have a name for the problem when a company hires indie developers and stops them keeping the indie projects going? It's looking like a pattern.
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[schmarty] in this case my understanding is that pfrazee kind of hit a wall with Beaker and wanted to change an underlying approach with the way the hyper-ecosystem works. the hyper folks have been working on a big rewrite to enable "multi-writer", breaking backwards-compatibility.
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[schmarty] seems like Atek (whatever it will be) is kind of starting over, leaving Beaker in limbo, which is a huge bummer.
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[schmarty] Mauve's Agregore has been filling in some of the gaps from the perspective of letting folks build "web apps that can publish and be published on and read from decentralized networks" and it's very powerful but i feel a bit rough in terms of churn and documentation.
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[KevinMarks]1 That sounds like the problem with scuttlebutt. Making everything private key based is a different kind of fragile from domains, and less mature at recovery
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[KevinMarks]1 I was thinking of Paul being hired by twitter/bluesky and previous community hirings that orphaned projects
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[schmarty] oh sheesh right. i forgot that after all that he was hired. 😅
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AramZ-S[m] Yeah, I really like Agregore, but rough is a good way to put it
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[tantek] agreed [KevinMarks] we need a term like acquihire that captures that essence of being hired either directly (legally) or indirectly (by taking up more time&attention i.e. opportunity cost) stopping indie projects. I feel some of that happened to [benatwork] and [kylewm] as well
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