#indieweb 2022-06-25

2022-06-25 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] extermihire, snuffemploy, suppressihire, extirployed, distractihired, saltified (salary is from the root salt, which when poured on productive land can destroy its productivity)?
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[chrisaldrich] what is naming?
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Loqi Naming is hard, yes, even, especially for a personal site since you have to pick both a name you like as a representation of yourself, and one that hasn’t been already taken, though sometimes you can ask nicely (or pay a lot) for domains that are registered but unused https://indieweb.org/naming
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[chrisaldrich] I recently got an email from Goodreads saying that they're removing/changing some functionality and as a result some of one's prior data will disappear. They're recommending downloading it now if you want to keep or back it up. Have we seen this pattern before? Is there a name for this pattern? Its not a silo death because they're still there, but some of users data will disappear.
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AramZ-S[m] That's very frustrating.
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AramZ-S[m] Time to really get around to homebrewing an alternative.
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[chrisaldrich] What is read?
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Loqi To read or reading is the act of viewing and interpreting posts or other documents; on the IndieWeb, a read post expresses that something has been read, like a book or section thereof https://indieweb.org/read
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[chrisaldrich] What is personal library?
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Loqi A personal library is an online collection of books and other media that reflects either physical or digital items one owns, wants to acquire, has bookmarked to read/watch/listen to, is currently doing so, or has in the past https://indieweb.org/personal_library
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[chrisaldrich] Some of us have a start, but there's a lot more work hiding behind these patterns.
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[chrisaldrich] I'll try to document some of the specifics, but it looks like there's a late July deadline iirc.
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[chrisaldrich] What is Goodreads?
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Loqi Goodreads is a silo for keeping track of books, reviews, and reading progress https://indieweb.org/Goodreads
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[tw2113_Slack_] they say "not to" but I manually copy/paste book descriptions from them still
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gRegor Thanks for the heads up, had missed their email
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gRegor Weird subset of things they're removing: favorite authors, who recommended the book / who you recommend to, and details of books you own like condition, purchase date
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AramZ-S[m] For the interested I put together a very badly documented, but last I checked functional, Goodreads exporter for a hackathon project a year or so ago that built on the Library.JSON proposal from https://tomcritchlow.com/2020/04/15/library-json/
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AramZ-S[m] It's over on Glitch - https://glitch.com/edit/#!/goodreads-exporter
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Loqi Library JSON - A Proposal for a Decentralized Goodreads
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AramZ-S[m] Prob should take some time to clean it up and add some more data capture to the export process since it might be useful to people other than I
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AramZ-S[m] I think a big part of why I built it was that their data export was missing some major fields when I tried it out
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[schmarty] silobotomy?
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[KevinMarks]1 [tw2113_Slack_] could you use Open Library for descriptions? They have covers too
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[tw2113_Slack_] I know I could
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[tw2113_Slack_] Covers are something I take my own photo for and have considered contributing those back in the past too
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[tonz] what’s the copyright status of publishing pics of book covers, as the book covers are copyrighted in their own right and fair use doesn’t exist in most of the world.
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sknebel Formally: protected work, needs permission. Someto granted explicitly for reviews, other cases implicit in that publishers have an interest in you posting about their stuff and won't complain
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[KevinMarks]1 Openlibrary.org elides that for you (amazon had a book cover link service before, not sure it's still up)
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[KevinMarks]1 Semi related - newspaper front page archives https://palewi.re/docs/news-homepages/index.html
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Zegnat Trying to find terms for using covers from openlibrary and cannot actually find anything. So not sure how they help me "elide" copyright
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Zegnat Not really an #indieweb conversation, though, probably?
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[KevinMarks]1 Well, the point is that you hotlink their urls, so they get any DMCA hassle https://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/api/covers
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[timothy_chambe] Bonfire Beta 1 launched. In essence a mix of a micro blogging platform and a framework for federated social, with plug in extensions for other functionality. Have not yet seen indieweb plugins.
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[timothy_chambe] https://bonfirenetworks.org/posts/meet_us_at_the_playground/
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Zegnat I like how they are planning both install parties and build parties!
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jacky [KevinMarks]1: this is handy
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jacky re: the index of archives
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jacky I could imagine (if I ever finish my reader) using this to make one-click subscription buttons
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Zegnat Ooh, yeah, that newspaper archive does seem interesting. Does not seem very international (yet) though.
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Zegnat The publisher I worked at actually did something similar. Dumping snapshots of its own homepage to a separate server every once in a while. Though that was for internal use, e.g. to track the positions of articles on the homepage over time.
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[chrisaldrich] [jamesg483] have you documented some of your IndieWeb personal search work on the wiki yet? I could have sworn that some of the personal/indiewebby search tools like https://search.marginalia.nu had been captured?
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[chrisaldrich] Today in spam email about my website: "I spent a couple of hours checking out your site, and honestly, it’s great. I specifically enjoyed *https://boffosocko.com/tag/pregnancy/.* You have fantastic content, and that’s why I want to reach out to you." They want me to put a link from that page to their article on python programming... what do you think magic 8 ball? shall I? 🎱
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Zegnat [chrisaldrich]: depends. Are they at least offering 6 figures?
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