#indieweb 2022-09-15

2022-09-15 UTC
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gRegor
interesting example of personal principles for one's site: https://www.cjchilvers.com/personal-publishing-principles/
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corlaez
how do i connect to homebrew websites
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aaronpk
big blinking "join the meeting" link there
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@karaswisher
This is a thread on the ephemeral nature of content, who owns your work & why creators need to own their IP, which just hit home when I was doing research for my memoir on covering the rise of Silicon Valley. Why? Because most the work we did at All Things Digital has gone poof. https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/FcpAewtXEAMv9wL.jpg
(twitter.com/_/status/1570138323632664578)
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epoch
IP like, IP address, or IP like intellectual property?
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epoch
guess the second one doesn't make sense because if they didn't own it, it wouldn't be their IP
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[KevinMarks]
Intellectual Property is a daft abstraction, but that is what she means. She had an agreement with News International to keep her old site up, which they have broken
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epoch
then I guess a word other than "own" in that tweet would have been less confusing to me.
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aaronpk
IP can be owned by the creator or by someone else, it's a specific legal term used in copyright law at least in the US
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[tantek]4
it's roughly equivalent to own your data or own your content etc.
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epoch
I get what they intended, but, it is "own your property" if you didn't own it, it wouldn't be your property, it'd be someone else's
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epoch
it is called your property because you own it.
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aaronpk
are you trying to say that because the article was a work for hire that it wasn't her IP in the first place?
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epoch
oh, it was a work for hire? I guess if you sell your rights to a work, it isn't "your" IP anymore.
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aaronpk
i don't know, but that is the only way what you're saying makes sense. if it's not a work for hire, then it is her IP, regardless of what license the publication has to the IP
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epoch
I was more wondering if I misunderstand what property and ownership are.
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epoch
as far as I knew, all things I own are my property, and all of my property are things I own.
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aaronpk
IP ownership and licensing have very little in common with physical property ownership
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AramZS
sadly
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[KevinMarks]
Hence why I called it a daft abstraction. Ownership of non rivalrous goods doesn't map well to land metaphors.
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jacky
(tbh the land references are weak in themselves too)
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[tantek]4
^
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aaronpk
heh true
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[tantek]4
jacky++
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Loqi
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[KevinMarks]
Georgism for IP!
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[jeremycherfas]
Georgian for all the things!
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[jeremycherfas]
Sodding auto correct
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