#indieweb 2022-09-17

2022-09-17 UTC
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IWDiscordGateway
<capjamesg> This is an interesting position to present to the CMA.
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[tantek]4
💀
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[tantek]4
what is giphy
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Loqi
Giphy is a silo to search and share animated gifs https://indieweb.org/Giphy
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[tantek]4
Giphy << Self-criticism: 2022-09-16 The Guardian: [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/sep/16/gifs-are-cringe-and-for-boomers-giphy-claims-in-meta-takeover-filing ‘Gifs are cringe’: how Giphy’s multimillion-dollar business fell out of fashion] <blockquote>“There are indications of an overall decline in gif use,” ... “They have fallen out of fashion as a content form, with younger users in particular describing gifs a
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[tantek]4
boomers’ and ‘cringe’.”</blockquote>
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Loqi
ok, I added "Self-criticism: 2022-09-16 The Guardian: [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/sep/16/gifs-are-cringe-and-for-boomers-giphy-claims-in-meta-takeover-filing ‘Gifs are cringe’: how Giphy’s multimillion-dollar business fell out of fashion] <blockquote>“There are indications of an overall decline in gif use,” ... “They have fallen out of fashion as a content form, with younger users in particular describing gifs a" to the "See Also" section of /Giphy https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=83482&oldid=69943
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[KevinMarks]
The problem with "Creators" and "posts" as an organising principle https://severancetime.substack.com/p/towards-a-theory-of-the-creator
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[tantek]4
[KevinMarks] that reads like a bit of an elitist troll a la Keen. What am I missing?
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[tantek]4
Did the 5th circuit just (effectively) kill silos? https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/09/16/5th-circuit-texas-social-media-law/
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[KevinMarks]
The Creators rhetoric is the silos latest self image of who they're supporting. It's a critique of that.
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[tantek]4
I mean sorta? Feels more like someone misunderstanding the size/effort put into creation for the value thereof
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[tonz]
to me it read like ‘creators’ is just short for ‘content creators’, which stuck because it sounds more lofty than just generating fodder for the rage-machines. Doing a find and replace in that article like that seems to clear up a lot of confusion with actual makers and artists. Or maybe I just skimmed too shallowly.
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[tonz]
(actual makers and artists not meant as elitist here, to me it’s where the center of purpose is. Content creation often is a means, not the purpose, artefacts and art are more often a purpose in themselves)
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[KevinMarks]
As "content" was rightly decried as viewing the message from the point of view of the medium, they're eliding "content" now.
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[KevinMarks]
"filling the news hole"
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[tonz]
of course, though that didn’t change the point of view of the medium, nor it being the only factor in determining the course of such platforms. Meta et al view content creators as commodity no matter the label.
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fcjz
hello?
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[KevinMarks]
Hi there fcjz
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[tonz]
hi fcjz!
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IWDiscordGateway
<capjamesg> Hello!
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[tantek]4
[KevinMarks] yes that looks new
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