#indieweb 2022-11-11

2022-11-11 UTC
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[tw2113_Slack_] i wonder if because of or in spite of him
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avantgardeantler hello!
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[jacky] thread re: masto + moderation https://twitter.com/IBJIYONGI/status/1589628437601615874
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@IBJIYONGI People saying it doesn’t matter which Mastodon instance you join are being misleading: 1. Each one has different moderation policies 2. Not every one allows you to formally “move” there 3. Who is on that instance and who they follow determines your federated timeline content (twitter.com/_/status/1589628437601615874)
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[snarfed] hi avantgardeantler!
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[snarfed] "ActivityPub is old school internet technology" 😂 https://twitter.com/BenjaminNelan/status/1590281321133535232
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@BenjaminNelan @erinnthered @IBJIYONGI @elizejackson I understand the apprehension, but this is bigger than Mastodon. ActivityPub is old school internet technology that should have been the mainstream. Open standards. It won't fix society's problem, it's not a utopian fix all. But it does give people agency over their voice. (twitter.com/_/status/1590281321133535232)
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[tantek] [snarfed] AP is "old school" ?!? I'm 💀
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[jgmac1106] my pocket knife is my 3-d printer
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[jgmac1106] to be fair most new ideas in school don't work either
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[tantek] I'm so behind on replies to (@-)mentions. I'm not even sure where to look for my @-@-mentions
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[tw2113_Slack_] [tantek] just start fresh with getting behind again
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[Jamie_Tanna] Tantek re @-@ you may be also hit by https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/270
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Loqi [jamietanna] #270 @-mention rejected by webmention.io
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IWDiscordRelay <J​ulian_Dumitrascu#0382> Where does one start?
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IWDiscordRelay <J​ulian_Dumitrascu#0382> 1. Who wants to schedule a talk?
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IWDiscordRelay <J​ulian_Dumitrascu#0382> 2. Is this (https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started) the main user guide?
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jeremycherfas Hello. That's certainly one place to start, but it also depends a bit on your level of comfort with techie stuff. Do you already have a domain?
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[jacky] important note: https://discord.com/channels/916007086884798475/916007087421681679/1040601457944170497
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[jacky] grr
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[jacky] https://twitter.com/ambrown/status/1590856887498858496
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@ambrown pretty weird to come to the grim realization that i will indeed suffer professional and personal consequences for the demise of this dumb hellhole website. just so many connections to so many different types of people scattered to the wind. (twitter.com/_/status/1590856887498858496)
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aaronpk hey i know him
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aaronpk whoa I just found this randomly, they snipped out the segment about the indieweb into a standalone YouTube video of the podcast https://youtu.be/DjhIPBaLJpc
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aaronpk (From my changelog podcast interview)
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[KevinMarks]1 https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/109325004388205281
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Loqi [Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦] Who Is “Web3” For? https://strangematters.coop/web3-vs-fediverse-decentralized-internet/> Like radioactivity, blockchain can be a useful tool in solving certain kinds of problems. Like dental hygiene, the decentralization of global communication ...
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neatnik hi! is there any kind of badge/icon out there for the indieweb concept/movemenent overall?
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> What are badges
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neatnik [jacky]: like, a thing to display on a web page
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barnaby neatnik: we have some here https://indieweb.org/buttons
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neatnik barnaby, perfect, thanks!
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] that masto instance is js;dr
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[tantek] js;dr << Software example: some [[Mastodon]] instances no longer display content without Javascript, e.g. mstdn.social (https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/109325004388205281) says <blockquote> To use the Mastodon web application, please enable JavaScript. Alternatively, try one of the native apps for Mastodon for your platform. </blockquote>
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Loqi ok, I added "Software example: some [[Mastodon]] instances no longer display content without Javascript, e.g. mstdn.social (https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/109325004388205281) says <blockquote> To use the Mastodon web application, please enable JavaScript. Alternatively, try one of the native apps for Mastodon for your platform. </blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /js;dr https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84334&oldid=83994
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[tantek] Mastodon << Criticism: some [[Mastodon]] instances are [[js;dr]], i.e. no longer display content without Javascript, e.g. mstdn.social (https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/109325004388205281) says <blockquote> To use the Mastodon web application, please enable JavaScript. Alternatively, try one of the native apps for Mastodon for your platform. </blockquote>
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Loqi [tantek]: I don't mean to be a bother, but JavaScript seems like a better conversation for #indieweb-dev
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: some [[Mastodon]] instances are [[js;dr]], i.e. no longer display content without Javascript, e.g. mstdn.social (https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/109325004388205281) says <blockquote> To use the Mastodon web application, please enable JavaScript. Alternatively, try one of the native apps for Mastodon for your platform. </blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /Mastodon https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84335&oldid=84311
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aaronpk can we keep wiki edits to #indieweb-meta?
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[tantek] ok
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[KevinMarks]1 Mastodon 4.0 is js;dr - need to write some issues for them
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[tantek] do we have a place where we document Twitter reply-bots beyond the thread unrolling? e.g. https://twitter.com/RemindMe_OfThis
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[tantek] I suppose I should have asked is anyone using that
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[tantek] 28 days until you really should export & download your Twitter content ASAP because their website HTTPS certificate may expire without renewal on 2022-12-12 per https://twitter.com/obra/status/1590920558598029312
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2022-12-09 9:39am PST (#6986)
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@obra Well, this will be a nice little litmus test....assuming we still need a litmus test next month. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhQVnA4VQAAH-hK.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1590920558598029312)
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[snarfed] [tantek] re @-@-mentions from the fediverse, BF converts them to homepage webmentions, like Bridgy
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[snarfed] (we settled on that as the native indieweb corollary in Bridgy a while back. open to other ideas though!)
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petermolnar [tantek]: the buildup for that tweet: https://twitter.com/craigcalef/status/1588530367476420608
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@craigcalef @Foone Right now a disk is filling up on a server somewhere in some data center that a person who has just been laid off has been manually clearing every few days and when that disk fills up Twitter will go down. (twitter.com/_/status/1588530367476420608)
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[tantek] yeah I remember seeing that one
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[tantek] wow Migration Assistant failed (MacBook Air to MacBook Air) and left me in a partially migrated state while also wiping out all previous accounts I created on the new machine! yay!
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Loqi giggles
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[tantek] my track record of expecting such "turnkey" step-by-step "assistants" to inexplicably fail and do a bad job continues.
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jbove indieweb.social Mastodon instance seems experiencing issues right now
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jbove and it's back - perhaps a restart
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jjuran [tantek]: You're lucky it didn't also wipe them on the old machine!
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[tantek] jjuran true!
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