#indieweb 2022-11-25

2022-11-25 UTC
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Kaja
It's March 1000, 2020 (UTC)
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IWDiscordRelay
<c​apjamesg#4492> Eek.
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[snarfed]
Revised the Bridgy Fed docs pretty heavily. Feedback welcome! https://fed.brid.gy/docs
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aaronpk
[snarfed]++
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Loqi
[snarfed] has 28 karma in this channel over the last year (77 in all channels)
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jmac
Hi everyone! It's been a while. My life has changed a lot over the last couple of years, and I drifted out of IndieWeb stuff. You'll be unsurprised to learn that very recent events have been making me start to drift back again.
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jmac
I hope you've all been well and that my fellow Americans are enjoying a nice holiday weekend.
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jmac
And I"m curious if anyone's running a one-user Mastodon server? I know that "the fediverse" is merely IndieWeb-adjacent, but since the month began I have come to understand how specific technologies like Mastodon and micro.blog work a lot better than I used t o.
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aaronpk
i know a few people who are running their own full mastodon server, or renting one from masto.host, but like you said there are other good options now too :)
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jmac
Hi Aaron!!
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jmac
I'm honestly pretty stoked
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jmac
It feels like A Moment that is different from earlier ones. A real wildfire which... honestly sucks for a lot of reasons but is also clearing out a lot of land? There isn't any metaphor that doesn't make me sound excited to see people's real and valuable communities getting capriciously destroyed by a rich idiot
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GWG
Hi, jmac
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jmac
Hi!!
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GWG
Nice to see you
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aaronpk
and welcome back :)
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aaronpk
what is life happens?
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Loqi
life happens is a summary expression of numerous things that people experience in their actual physical lives that suddenly take higher priority than nearly anything else (like participation in volunteer-based communities), and the IndieWeb community is here to acknowledge, accept, and be supportive of community members experiencing this https://indieweb.org/life_happens
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jmac
My short L.H. story is that I got a full-time job (shortly before the last time I say [schmarty] iRL, IIRC) and I needed a year to figure out how that works. It had been a while.
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jmac
*saw
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[schmarty]
We had a sidewalk coffee!
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jmac
We did! In Midtown! When the streets were still bizarrely semi-empty! (Now they're just two-thirds empty)
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jmac
(er, one-third)
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jmac
Now I'm tryna decide whether I wanna go full micro.blog (since [manton] fixed the ActivityPub bug I barked out on the forums!! thanks!!), or jump on the mastodon server that a tech nonprofit I'm affiliated with is setting up, or set up my own. Or do all three and let em fight it out
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GWG
That's why I decided to not get a life...it interferes too much with my indiewebbing
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jmac
My day job is documenting a cloud-based PostgreSQL service, and it hit me yesterday I can try to set up a mastodon instance using it for storage and be all THIS IS FOR WORK
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jmac
I gotta say that even as I've been reading and enjoying RSS feeds again (which is part of why IndieWeb came back to mind so readily!) Mastodon is *fun* to use right now. It feels so hopeful, and its non-silo-ness feels *good*. I know I wanna be part of it, one way or another.
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Loqi
hey jmac: can you move the tech talk (ActivityPub, RSS) to #indieweb-dev to keep this channel more inclusive and inviting?
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jmac
Aww, missed you too, Loqi
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IWDiscordRelay
<c​apjamesg#4492> Hello jmac!
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sknebel
welcome back jmac :)
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[tantek]
[snarfed]++ for the Bridgy Fed docs update. Reads smoother than I remember previously
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Loqi
[snarfed] has 29 karma in this channel over the last year (78 in all channels)
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[snarfed]
Thanks!
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://hci.social/@cfiesler/109406111320023346" to the "See Also" section of /rel-me https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84645&oldid=84424
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capjamesg
This is a very visual way to explain rel=me.
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[snarfed]
I can't wait for someone to run a single-user Mastodon instance that they fork and hack the rel-me validation and then impersonate someone with a green checked website field
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capjamesg
So we need validation for the validation :D
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capjamesg
I, @jamesg@jamesg.blog vouch that @snarfed@snarfed.org is indeed snarfed.
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aaronpk
good reason to use a visible link from your website to your mastodon profile
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barnaby
visiblelinks++
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Loqi
visiblelinks has 1 karma over the last year
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[snarfed]
there's only a short list of known ways to implement trust at scale. Centralized, hierarchical (eg CAs), web of trust, TOFU, out of band (eg key signing parties), blockchain, ...?
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[snarfed]
aaronpk is right, rel-me works, piggybacking on CAs, but only if you verify at the root web site
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Loqi
friendly reminder [snarfed], it seems like this conversation is more appropriate for #indieweb-dev (blockchain, implement, Web of Trust, root)
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[tantek]
lol deserved
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capjamesg
I have many questions.
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sknebel
[snarfed]: afaik has already happened.
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sknebel
But only tricks people if they look at the lying instance, not at the profile through another one
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[snarfed]
Right! But realistically most people don't verify
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sknebel
But with the latest changes, you might be more likely to look at a profile through your home instance
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[snarfed]
I wonder whether/how Mastodon propagates rel-me verification
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sknebel
Each instance checks for itself. Thats why I said the above
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[snarfed]
Ah sorry I missed that. Ok! That's useful
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[KevinMarks]
Also outbound rel=me links are currently broken due to js;dr changes, and the "fix" is putting them in the head as link
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