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#jmacHi everyone! It's been a while. My life has changed a lot over the last couple of years, and I drifted out of IndieWeb stuff. You'll be unsurprised to learn that very recent events have been making me start to drift back again.
#jmacI hope you've all been well and that my fellow Americans are enjoying a nice holiday weekend.
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#jmacAnd I"m curious if anyone's running a one-user Mastodon server? I know that "the fediverse" is merely IndieWeb-adjacent, but since the month began I have come to understand how specific technologies like Mastodon and micro.blog work a lot better than I used t o.
#aaronpki know a few people who are running their own full mastodon server, or renting one from masto.host, but like you said there are other good options now too :)
#jmacIt feels like A Moment that is different from earlier ones. A real wildfire which... honestly sucks for a lot of reasons but is also clearing out a lot of land? There isn't any metaphor that doesn't make me sound excited to see people's real and valuable communities getting capriciously destroyed by a rich idiot
#Loqilife happens is a summary expression of numerous things that people experience in their actual physical lives that suddenly take higher priority than nearly anything else (like participation in volunteer-based communities), and the IndieWeb community is here to acknowledge, accept, and be supportive of community members experiencing this https://indieweb.org/life_happens
#jmacMy short L.H. story is that I got a full-time job (shortly before the last time I say [schmarty] iRL, IIRC) and I needed a year to figure out how that works. It had been a while.
#jmacNow I'm tryna decide whether I wanna go full micro.blog (since [manton] fixed the ActivityPub bug I barked out on the forums!! thanks!!), or jump on the mastodon server that a tech nonprofit I'm affiliated with is setting up, or set up my own. Or do all three and let em fight it out
#GWGThat's why I decided to not get a life...it interferes too much with my indiewebbing
#jmacMy day job is documenting a cloud-based PostgreSQL service, and it hit me yesterday I can try to set up a mastodon instance using it for storage and be all THIS IS FOR WORK
#jmacI gotta say that even as I've been reading and enjoying RSS feeds again (which is part of why IndieWeb came back to mind so readily!) Mastodon is *fun* to use right now. It feels so hopeful, and its non-silo-ness feels *good*. I know I wanna be part of it, one way or another.
#Loqihey jmac: can you move the tech talk (ActivityPub, RSS) to #indieweb-dev to keep this channel more inclusive and inviting?
#capjamesgThis is a very visual way to explain rel=me.
#[snarfed]I can't wait for someone to run a single-user Mastodon instance that they fork and hack the rel-me validation and then impersonate someone with a green checked website field
#capjamesgSo we need validation for the validation :D
#[snarfed]there's only a short list of known ways to implement trust at scale. Centralized, hierarchical (eg CAs), web of trust, TOFU, out of band (eg key signing parties), blockchain, ...?
#[snarfed]aaronpk is right, rel-me works, piggybacking on CAs, but only if you verify at the root web site
#Loqifriendly reminder [snarfed], it seems like this conversation is more appropriate for #indieweb-dev (blockchain, implement, Web of Trust, root)