#indieweb 2022-11-28
2022-11-28 UTC
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[snarfed] Here's a graph of Bridgy webmentions by silo. Basically all Twitter 6w ago, but Mastodon has now grown to maybe as much as half. https://snarfed.org/bridgy-twitter-mastodon.png
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# cambridgeport90[ Nice.
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "notes on indieweb 🔛 Xanadu design patterns" https://www.enderverse.org/notes/indiexanadu.html
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[KevinMarks] Well, it's a caching approach. Xanadu was a "one big database" model, like twitter's microservices approach to constructing a timeline. Both are tricky at scale in different ways (cf Mastodon queue explosion)
# [KevinMarks] Not that many approaches could cope with this: https://mastodon.world/@ruud/109420858153488199
# Loqi [Ruud] These are the number of statuses (posts) on Mastodon.world per month, since the beginning in August 2021. :mastodonworld:#statistics #mastodon #mastodonworld https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/mastodonworld/media_attachments/files/109/420/848/394/256/895/original/8892e6a8544d4173.png
# [KevinMarks] Moving to dev for more technical notes
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[tantek] could add it to /algorithmic_feed
# [KevinMarks] algorithmic feed << [https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/11/28/On-Algorithms Tim BRay: On Algorithms] <blockquote>So let’s stop saying “No algorithms!” because that’s just wrong, and figure out how to get <i>nice</i> algorithms built, ones that primarily are there to serve humanity’s best interests.</blockquote>
# Loqi ok, I added "[https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/11/28/On-Algorithms Tim BRay: On Algorithms] <blockquote>So let’s stop saying “No algorithms!” because that’s just wrong, and figure out how to get <i>nice</i> algorithms built, ones that primarily are there to serve humanity’s best interests.</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /algorithmic_feed https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84703&oldid=83693
# [KevinMarks] silo quits << [https://doctorow.medium.com/social-quitting-1ce85b67b456 Cory Doctorow: Social Quitting] <blockquote>As I type these words, there is a mass exodus underway from Twitter and Facebook. After decades of eye-popping growth, these social media sites are contracting at an alarming rate. […]And then…Stuff happened. Mark Zuckerberg got worried about losing users and decided we were all going to live as legless low-polygon
# [KevinMarks] cartoons in a metaverse that no one wanted to use, not even the Facebook employees who built it. Twitter got bought out by a low-attention-span, overconfident billionaire who started pulling out Jenga blocks to see whether the system would fall over, and when it did, we all got crushed by the falling blocks.
# [KevinMarks] These services had been shaved down to the point where most of us were only a hair’s breadth away from quitting, because all the surplus had been transferred from us and from business users to the companies.
# [KevinMarks] Once things got just a <i>little</i> worse, advertisers and users started to quit, and the long-delayed MySpacing of Facebook and Beboizing of Twitter began.</blockquote>
# Loqi ok, I added "[https://doctorow.medium.com/social-quitting-1ce85b67b456 Cory Doctorow: Social Quitting] <blockquote>As I type these words, there is a mass exodus underway from Twitter and Facebook. After decades of eye-popping growth, these social media sites are contracting at an alarming rate. […]And then…Stuff happened. Mark Zuckerberg got worried about losing users and decided we were all going to live as legless low-polygon" to the "See Also" section of /silo-quits https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84705&oldid=84560
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# guysoft[m] Hey all, so I host the second largest Fediverse instance in the country here in my house, and just found out IndeWeb was a thing
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# [KevinMarks] Hi guysoft, that's great. How's the hosting going?
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# IWDiscordRelay <capjamesg#4492> Welcome!