#indieweb 2022-12-02

2022-12-02 UTC
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[tantek] New topic: I'm going to post raw text instead of tweet links to text that has already obviously been copypasted. I want to find the right place to document this effect, perhaps on /social_media or maybe /publics which is a clear indicator of the challenge of human scaling of "social networks" (whether centralized or decentralized):
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[tantek] "Hi, most annoying person you’ve ever encountered here! I noticed this post you wrote in 3 seconds doesn’t line up with every experience I’ve ever had. This is extremely harmful to me, the main character of the universe,"
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[mattl] Not cool to subtweet me on here [tantek]
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[jacky] omg lol
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[tantek] 💀 [mattl]
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[mattl] lol
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gRegor sub-slack
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[tantek] [mattl]++ you made me lol bad enough that I had to look away and breathe
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Loqi [mattl] has 1 karma over the last year
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[mattl] I hear they’re blogspot for MAGA
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gRegor sounds like you're describing "reply guy", [tantek]
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[mattl] yup
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[mattl] But also worse
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[tantek] alright I'll post an *image* link of the tweet that was screenshotted (before the author took their account private) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fft57wMWYAAA2Rk?format=jpg
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[mattl] Oh yeah. That’s a common enough thing.
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[tantek] CW: promo. BTW for anyone that has a very recent Firefox, you can now right-click on any image and choose "Copy Text From Image" and Firefox will OCR it (obviously client-side) and show you the found text and put it in the clipboard. It's doing a decent job for me.
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gRegor nice!
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aaronpk oh nice is that part of firefox? i've been enjoying that in iSO
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aaronpk iOS
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[tantek] yes aaronpk, different UI that the iOS background-OCR but similar utility.
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[tantek] as in Firefox is NOT auto-OCRing all images for you (thank goodness)
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[mattl] That’s great. Sad to say I don’t use Firefox much anymore but that’s very good. Anyway we can make it better?
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[tantek] happy to continue in #indieweb-chat re: make Firefox better since that feels off-topic for here
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> [tantek] Me to re: "absolutely nothing" 😂
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Decentralized Website Communication with Webmention (Talk Announcement)" https://jamesg.blog/2022/12/02/webmention-talk/
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inventive q
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inventive exit
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[jacky] me trying to close nano
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Moving from Mastodon to a new instance or to Micro.blog" https://www.manton.org/2022/12/02/moving-from-mastodon.html (from https://aaronparecki.com/2022/12/02/7/)
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[tantek] Now do Moving From One Domain To Another Domain. Would it be something like 1. scp your files over, 2. setup a domain level permanent redirect?
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[snarfed]2 might be too heterogeneous to be doable in a single tutorial. eg more and more IndieWeb people will be on a higher level host like micro.blog that doesn't do ftp, scp, or shell
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[snarfed]2 ideally we'd see a comprehensive archive format like wordpress's get more and more widespread and supported
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[catgirlinspace] for me i just did a redirect from old domain to new domain. didn't worry too much about if i was loosing stuff like webmentions because i had like, maybe 3 or 4 total on my old website lol
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paulrobertlloyd Hello all! Just reviewing my micropub implementation, and had a thought; is there a plan to update the Micropub spec to include what are now considered stable query extensions?
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paulrobertlloyd (living spec, that should be)
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Loqi paulrobertlloyd: that's a lot of dev jargon! implementation, Micropub, spec... can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "moving to the fediverse and indieweb" https://catgirlin.space/posts/moving-to-the-fediverse-and-indieweb/
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[catgirlinspace] its me!
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[schmarty] catgirlinspace++
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Loqi catgirlinspace has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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[tantek] [catgirlinspace]++
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Loqi [catgirlinspace] has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (4 in all channels)
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[catgirlinspace] ty
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btrem catgirlinspace I may be too late (I don't spend much time in indieweb), but I noticed you have made queries about indieweb, 11ty, and webmentions. You probably already know, but there are several posts by various writers specifically about integrating webmentions with 11ty.
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btrem e.g., https://sia.codes/posts/webmentions-eleventy-in-depth/
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Loqi [preview] [Sia Karamalegos] An In-Depth Tutorial of Webmentions + Eleventy
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btrem (which seems to have changed quite a bit since I read it several months ago, but maybe my memory fails me)
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btrem Also, you asked about Liquid templates. Can't find it atm in the archives, but someone else mentioned that they like nunjucks. Me too, but I didn't want to incur the cost of django (in terms of learning and maintenence) for what I figured was going to be a simple site, so I went with 11ty. And I use jinja, which is a port of nunjucks.
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[tantek] ok something has tipped (for me personally at least). I'm seeing more /reactions via BridgyFed to my posts than on the Twitter POSSE copy
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aaronpk i've been meaning to make a little chart at the bottom of my posts to illustrate that
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[KevinMarks] Jinja2 is the python one, nunjucks the js one. The template syntax is almost the same (when you do inline code they can diverge a bit)
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[KevinMarks] I think tech twitter has mostly migrated, it's journalism and politics twitter that's not crossed over ywt
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[tantek] ^ hey hey templates -> #indieweb-dev plz