#indieweb 2022-12-08

2022-12-08 UTC
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Loqi
[preview] [masto certified hot wife 🧿] my serious thoughts on moderation and stuff is this: I've done it a lot in the past, I've done the being very reasonable bit and trying hard to be fair bit and the responding graciously to (typically) cis men patronising or insulting me while believi...
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[Murray]
interesting article, mirrors some of my own feelings/reasons for holding back on automating POSSE or only using POSSE
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[snarfed]2
hey, that's what I do
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M0x3b0b[m]
for clarification, what is? I presume manually decide what goes to each platform?
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[snarfed]2
the article is more about manually doing the actual posting, instead of automating
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[snarfed]2
which gives you the opportunity to customize for each platform
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M0x3b0b[m]
I still haven't decided exactly what I want to do about that myself. Although while I also level of respect for communities that might prefer I not cross post, I think my potential reasons for refraining may align more with convenience of interaction (a topic on which I think I have about three of your blog posts set aside to peruse again later) than with customization for the medium.
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aaronpk
I choose which places to posse to for each post using a button in Quill
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ash[m]
I've been manually posseing to twitter since switching to MBP cause I usually need to cut the character count down to an appropriate excerpt
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[tantek]
^ I literally have a display for Twitter remaining-characters count and/or expected text cut-off/ellipsing in my post UI for this reason. I'm considering adding similar char count / text cut-off indications for other destinations as well. https://indieweb.org/Falcon#Design_POSSE_truncations_display
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ash[m]
Is the current character count for urls on twitter now something like 20?
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[tantek]
it's 23 and duplicated in enough places with at least one error that I'm going to make a template
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M0x3b0b[m]
Part of what has be somewhat uncertain about where my eventual goal lies is that I had a Fediverse account on a server with a 5000 character limit already. It has an interesting impact on my perception of the convenience-vs-own-domain question.
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[tantek]
it's been so liberating to not feel the 140 (nay 117), then 280 (nay 257) char limits, and now 500 soft Masto default (is the 5000 char limit a hard limit?), or 2200 hard IG limit. It turns those "limits" from hard boundaries into editorial boundaries where you have to make a decision similar to "above the fold" style copy editing.
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[tantek]
actually 256 now (link length 23 + a space " ")
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[tantek]
for tweet syndication
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[snarfed]2
tantek++ agreed. afaik fediverse limits are all soft since they're implementation-specific, not baked into the protocol, and Mastodon at least gracefully handles longer posts federated in from outside (eg from Bridgy Fed)
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Loqi
tantek has 15 karma in this channel over the last year (73 in all channels)
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M0x3b0b[m]
I haven't actually posted on that account yet, so I don't know whether the interface hard-stops me at 5000 or just warns me I'm over, nor whether it could be bypassed by js manipulation or using another client or something. I just know that's what it's counting up to. I'm pretty sure it's running akkoma.
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[chrisaldrich]
Speaking of syndication limits, Ethan Zuckerman is reporting issues with syndication of Mastodon to Twitter: https://mastodon.social/@ethanz@octodon.social/109479073228980457 Is anyone else who is still on/syndicating to Twitter seeing limits on crossposting, particularly with larger 3rd party tools?
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Loqi
[preview] [Ethan Zuckerman] Interesting. I have been using a cross-poster to bring tweets between Twitter and Mastodon - http://crossposter.masto.donte.com.br - Mastodon posts no longer are allowed onto Twitter - Twitter is severely limiting third party tools. This is really, r...
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[snarfed]2
^ looks like their organic growth hit a pre-existing rate limit
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[tantek]
^ glad I'm still using my own site to directly (instead of BridgyPub) POSSE to Twitter all my text-only posts
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[tantek]
I'm just going to start calling it BridgyPub from now on since there is ActivityP** and Microp** (** for Loqi :P)
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[snarfed]2
lol
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[chrisaldrich]
Dairius' Hometown (a fork of Mastodon) allows for setting a higher character count, though his own friend.camp instance adheres to the 500 character limit. I'm on a version of it at hcommons.social which has a 1000 character limit which does a "read more" notice on Mastodon when one goes over. For the curious, one can prepend `/api/v1/instance` to the root domain name of an instance to get a variety of data about it including any
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[chrisaldrich]
character caps and the number of characters reserved for links. Example: https://hcommons.social/api/v1/instance
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Loqi
[chrisaldrich]: it looks like this conversation is getting pretty technical (API, root), can you take it to #indieweb-dev?
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[tantek]
boom. 🦆 😇
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[chrisaldrich]
a*i included in a url shouldn't count Loqi. 😛 I even included the example to make it more people friendly.
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[chrisaldrich]
kevinmarks++ and particularly for putting the community rules at the top
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Loqi
kevinmarks has 10 karma in this channel over the last year (50 in all channels)
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[chrisaldrich]
what is a webring?
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Loqi
A webring is a collection of websites linked together in a circular structure https://indieweb.org/webring
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://fediverse-webring-enthusiasts.glitch.me/, a [[Glitch]] project for the [[fediverse]]. A requisite example posted on Mastodon: https://wptoots.social/@tomfinley/109457760397078161" to the "See Also" section of /webring https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84955&oldid=84501
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