#indieweb 2023-02-02

2023-02-02 UTC
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[KevinMarks] Done https://xoxo.zone/@KevinMarks/109792169167985029
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Loqi [preview] [Kevin Marks] Nice to see that github now supports more than one outbound rel=me link, but how about verifying back links and showing a green tick like Mastodon does? Also, using the favicon for unknown sites is better than a generic link icon. @film_girl
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[tantek] gRegor, I may have borrowed that SVG from micro.blog 👀
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[KevinMarks] Tantek, do you have 20 years of XFN planned as part of your 100 days?
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[tantek] no because that's not til 2023-12-15 😭
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[tantek] I need to dig up my original rel=me proposal which may have been in email
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[tantek] it was in the evolution of XFN 1.0 -> 1.1
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Loqi friendly reminder [KevinMarks], [tantek], we try to keep dev talk (XFN) out of this channel, can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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[tantek] true true
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[jgarber] Maybe one for /site-deaths? https://www.mulesoft.com/programmableweb
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[tantek] whoa
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[tantek] did it have profiles or UGC?
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[jgarber] Though, from the Wayback Machine, I don’t see an obvious “sign in” link.
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[jgarber] It looks like anyone could submit an API for consideration: https://web.archive.org/web/20230109234653/https://www.programmableweb.com/add/api
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[jgarber] Looks like requests to the domain are redirected to the MuleSoft page.
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aaronpk oh yeah i remember that site, i think i documented some apis on it long ago
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aaronpk oh hah i submitted webmention.io to it!
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aaronpk oh wait, someone *else* did, and then they emailed me about it
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aaronpk https://web.archive.org/web/20130912103842/http://www.programmableweb.com/api/webmention.io
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Loqi friendly reminder aaronpk, we try to keep dev talk (APIs, API) out of this channel, can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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[KevinMarks] This looks interesting https://twitter.com/betaworks/status/1620539415495049217?s=20&t=WmFcMb_D_Qbc5mMXsVn6qQ
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@betaworks In late February, we're hosting Open Demo Nights again! If you're an entrepreneur, designer, engineer, or hacker working on something cool that you'd like to share, sign up here: https://airtable.com/shrmWT1iEHYOVEZc2 https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/Fn1QAaxWQAE6s1B.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1620539415495049217)
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[tantek] I want a cross-slack instances feature to show me a unified Sent box of a flat list of everything I’ve sent/reacji’d to across all slacks I’m logged into with the same email
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[tantek] I would totally use that as a source of material to blog
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[tantek] one flat time ordered list
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benatkin https://apis.guru/add-api/ - another place to add an API now that ProgrammableWeb is shut down
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[tantek] benatkin, API & Programmable sound better suited for #indieweb-dev
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arghc Just getting started. h-entry says "used to mark-up any other episodic or time series based content." but also for your homepage. Is there some other markup for static pages?
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benatkin cool, yeah, especially what I was going to say next :)
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arghc Also, while looking at Types of Posts, it seems that the indieweb is reproducing semantic web schemas, is there no way to piggyback on/cooperate with that existing work?
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Loqi hey arghc: it looks like this conversation is getting pretty technical (markup, Microformats, Semantic Web), can you take it to #indieweb-dev?
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arghc sure, sorry
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arghc oops, reposted to the wrong channel. any way to delete something you just posted? 8-)
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[jacky] This blog post is long and technical but it's a good example as to why it's good to write on your one's site https://fy.blackhats.net.au/blog/html/2023/02/02/how_hype_will_turn_your_security_key_into_junk.html - all of the other posts are just as good
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[tantek] Related to my cross-slack-instances universal Sent box feature request, I found this from 2011: http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/UniversalOutbox
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[tantek] Has anyone here used a “system” with a universal outbox like that?
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[tantek] It feels like a logical extension of all the indieweb things / own your data
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[tantek] One unified place where you own all your writing no matter where it goes, public, (possibly dynamic) allowlist audience, or private
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[tantek] Flipping it around, I suppose a while ago when (nearly) everything had an email interface you could turn your email Sent Items into a universal outbox if you always used the same email account for sending/publishing all your things
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[tantek] Curious if anyone here uses such a system, or is a making one, or is drawn to the possibility of having & using one
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capjamesg Wnat is the topic de jour?
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capjamesg Typo :facepalm:
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capjamesg [tantek] What is a UniversalOutbox?
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capjamesg Re: UniversalInbox. I love that idea.
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capjamesg I would love to have my emails, IRCs, Webmentions, etc. all in one place.
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[tantek] capjamesg, it’s the complement. Everything you write on the web in one place
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[KevinMarks] Textual scrobbling
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[tantek] that's universal inbox
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capjamesg My wiki, website, emails, and IRC chats would make for an interesting personal search experience.
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capjamesg Messages too.
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[tantek] yes, browsing a unified inbox / outbox would be a first step, search either/both would be another
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capjamesg I have been struggling to figure out how to represent my bookmarks.
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capjamesg I bookmark _a lot_ of what I read online.
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capjamesg I have the information, but I don't feel like it is presented in the best way.
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[tantek] represent presentationally? or in storage? or ... ?
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[tantek] hmm that's going in a #indieweb-dev direction
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[KevinMarks] Have a look at pinboard for a worked example
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capjamesg Presentationally.
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[KevinMarks] I realised after rereading the memex article that he is basically describing muxway/delicious/pinboard
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[KevinMarks] “When the user is building a trail, he names it, inserts the name in his code book, and taps it out on his keyboard. Before him are the two items to be joined, projected onto adjacent viewing positions. At the bottom of each there are a number of blank code spaces, and a pointer is set to indicate one of these on each item. The user taps a single key, and the items are permanently joined. In each code space appears the code word.â€
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[KevinMarks] That's tagging links