#indieweb 2023-03-09

2023-03-09 UTC
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aaronpk
wow, so many custom domains in BlueSky today!
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[schmarty]
Good post!
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cambridgeport90
this is going to sound like a broken record, I'm sure, but I have a question. I'm trying to reduce my project cost, but my friend who is my fellow admin in our infrastructure, is seeing lots of potential risks which is preventing him from exploring self-hosting once again; we used to do a lot of self-hosting, but then we ended up going all cloud, which made a hellscape out of both our finances. What is the best argument I can put
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cambridgeport90
forward to let him know that self-hosting nearly everything (though we still use Office 365, but that's because we tried self-hosting email before and we decided that three years was long enough. Ended up being a time suck for him, mostly.) is the best way forward?
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cambridgeport90
His main concern is remote code execution happening and one of us not seeing them.
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benpate[m]
There has to be a middle ground. Everyone doing everything in their own is horribly expensive, wasteful, and generally worse for performance. Trust, cooperation, and a specialization are WHY we’ve made the advancements we have.
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benpate[m]
But I’m the other end, Silicon Valley and surveillance capitalism have taken advantage of that trust and now the centralized solutions are their own flavor of harmful.
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benpate[m]
The middle way is trustworthy semi-centralized systems hosted on standardized platforms but under each individuals control.
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benpate[m]
Federated protocols like matrix and AP are a good start, but we have a lot to rebuild.
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[timothy_chambe]
My team did just launch this updated report and wanted to get it into folks field of view here: and if you liked it we are trying to get it seen as far and wide inside tech thought leaders spaces.
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[timothy_chambe]
This is our quarterly report on the state of play on the TwitterMigration - and would appreciate any boosts on Mastodon and retweets on Twitter.
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[timothy_chambe]
Here is the Twitter post:
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[timothy_chambe]
And here is the #mastodon post :
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@tchambers
New research from my team at @deweysquare on the #TwitterMigration. Our first quarterly update analyzing which platforms are growing - esp @joinmastodon 🐘 & #postnews. 📰 Includes new data on users posting, app downloads & more. Get it here: ▶️ https://is.gd/EI1lOl https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqxzRREacAc3ZAk.jpg
(twitter.com/_/status/1633807596137197572)
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cambridgeport90
I agree. He also didn't want to host a fediverse presence on his own infrastructure for fear of saturating his residential connection. I'm no stickler for terms of service; in fact, I laugh at them, and so do most of the support personnel for most ISPs.
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benpate[m]
Yeah, hosting a Web server over a cable modem seems like a bad time.
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aaronpk
eh, as soon as you stream a video from youtube or whatever that's like an order of magnitude more traffic than you receive from the fediverse
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aaronpk
saturating a home internet connection should be at the bottom of the list of concerns of hosting a mastodon instance at home
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cambridgeport90
That's what I think, too. It's more trying to convince him of that fact.
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cambridgeport90
I'm doing whatever I want on my side of the network, and he can do what he wants. I was just very clear that if he wants cloud services, he's paying for them.
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[tantek]
hmm indieweb.org is not responding for me
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aaronpk
seems fine here
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[tantek]
switching to #indieweb-meta
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