#cambridgeport90this is going to sound like a broken record, I'm sure, but I have a question. I'm trying to reduce my project cost, but my friend who is my fellow admin in our infrastructure, is seeing lots of potential risks which is preventing him from exploring self-hosting once again; we used to do a lot of self-hosting, but then we ended up going all cloud, which made a hellscape out of both our finances. What is the best argument I can put
#cambridgeport90forward to let him know that self-hosting nearly everything (though we still use Office 365, but that's because we tried self-hosting email before and we decided that three years was long enough. Ended up being a time suck for him, mostly.) is the best way forward?
#cambridgeport90His main concern is remote code execution happening and one of us not seeing them.
#benpate[m]There has to be a middle ground. Everyone doing everything in their own is horribly expensive, wasteful, and generally worse for performance. Trust, cooperation, and a specialization are WHY we’ve made the advancements we have.
#benpate[m]But I’m the other end, Silicon Valley and surveillance capitalism have taken advantage of that trust and now the centralized solutions are their own flavor of harmful.
#benpate[m]The middle way is trustworthy semi-centralized systems hosted on standardized platforms but under each individuals control.
#benpate[m]Federated protocols like matrix and AP are a good start, but we have a lot to rebuild.
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#[timothy_chambe]My team did just launch this updated report and wanted to get it into folks field of view here: and if you liked it we are trying to get it seen as far and wide inside tech thought leaders spaces.
#[timothy_chambe]This is our quarterly report on the state of play on the TwitterMigration - and would appreciate any boosts on Mastodon and retweets on Twitter.
#cambridgeport90I agree. He also didn't want to host a fediverse presence on his own infrastructure for fear of saturating his residential connection. I'm no stickler for terms of service; in fact, I laugh at them, and so do most of the support personnel for most ISPs.
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#benpate[m]Yeah, hosting a Web server over a cable modem seems like a bad time.
#aaronpkeh, as soon as you stream a video from youtube or whatever that's like an order of magnitude more traffic than you receive from the fediverse
#aaronpksaturating a home internet connection should be at the bottom of the list of concerns of hosting a mastodon instance at home
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#cambridgeport90That's what I think, too. It's more trying to convince him of that fact.
#cambridgeport90I'm doing whatever I want on my side of the network, and he can do what he wants. I was just very clear that if he wants cloud services, he's paying for them.
#[tantek]hmm indieweb.org is not responding for me