#indieweb 2023-05-18

2023-05-18 UTC
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[davidmead] Is GitHub the only IndieAuth provider left now? its the only one showing up for me
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[chrisbergr] There is also email. The indiewebring still gives me also the possibility to use twitter, but this doesn't work.
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cambridgeport90 How I'm not surprised. I can imagine that being verified to get your app checked on Twitter is a pain in the butt; a royal one. My app for my blog expired; I said hell with it.
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cambridgeport90 Actually, maybe I should stop kidding myself. It wasn't expired. It got suspended...because it didn't comply with the rules. What rules?
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rubenwardy the rule is you have to give Musk money
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cambridgeport90 they did do away with their free API tier, then? I thought it was available for 1500 tweets a month for free? (Not that I mind paying for things, that's not the issue.)
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cambridgeport90 But when I do pay for things, I want to make sure that I pay for something which is actually worth paying for, though determining "worth" is so difficult these days for everyone. Except Elon, maybe.
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[snarfed] evergreen: https://snarfed.org/the-twitter-api-is-now-effectively-unmaintained
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cambridgeport90 I figured they would do that. i'm wondering if my app was one of the ones that got caught in the ruthless search for invalid applications? Probably had something to do with being snagged by my shurt URL; seemingly nobody likes a short URL anymore.
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cambridgeport90 On a different topic, considering I have been blocked, yelled at, and just sort of hated nowadays in general in the fediverse community regarding full-text search of people's posts on the Fediverse, what about microblogged posts and notes on the Indieweb? Should those be searchable? Or is this issue purely something for the Fediverse people to be concerned with? Considering SEO isn't that important to us around here?
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[snarfed] Twitter API => #indieweb-dev
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benpate[m] Mine may not be a popular opinion, but I think that if you post something online publicly, you’re saying it’s fair game for anyone to index it. We already have standards like robots.txt that should be honored out of basic courtesy - but YOU posted it publicly.
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benpate[m] Yes, there’s a valid argument against allowing another centralized service to take over, but whining about search altogether is misguided.
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benpate[m] Google (et al) is going to index the web. Better to embrace the fact that some central services are inevitable, and build federated systems around a more equitable groundwork.
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[snarfed] yeah we've discussed the fediverse anti-search culture here a number of times before, it's obviously different from our general stance, but it's also a clear and strong part of their culture that probably won't change easily or quickly
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[snarfed] (and to reiterate, it's very much a cultural/social norm there, not technical, but they've still used it effectively to shut down a number of fediverse-wide search projects)
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[snarfed] there was lots more discussion on this in fediforum, and those videos are up now, finding a link...
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[snarfed] fediforum notes and videos are at https://fediforum.org/2023-03/
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benpate[m] [snarfed]: Which is dumb…
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benpate[m] … sorry - shortsighted and foolish. Search will come as soon as someone makes a good enough product that regular people start using it and the “conservatives” who stick to the old ways will be left behind.
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[snarfed] [benatwork] congrats on announcing and good luck with whatever in open web/media comes next! https://werd.io/2023/a-personal-update
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[tantek] If you deleted your tweets etc., you may want to look again: https://sackheads.social/@Cloudguy/110382306084912206
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Loqi [preview] [Dick Morrell ✔️.] Last November I deleted all my Tweets. Every single one. I then ran Redact and deleted all my likes, my media and retweets.38k tweets gone For six months I've had sub 5 tweets online Woke up today to find 34k of them restored.by Twitter who presumabl...
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capjamesg I now own airportpianos.org.
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[chrisbergr] I recently own chris.army simply because I wanted to know how Google Domains works and performs. Now I don't know anything to do with it except to have a cool bsky handle ^^ I hope your http://airportpianos.org will get more content 🙂
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[benatwork] I own my.dad and I haven’t figured out what I’m doing with it either 😬
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[benatwork] Also that sentence is really odd to type
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[chrisbergr] odd to type but funny to read :)
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[schmarty] i was in an improv troupe once named Your New Dad and I appreciated its weirdness.
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capjamesg https://effulgent-clafoutis-217782.netlify.app/
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capjamesg Has anyone seen a piano in an airport in the last year?
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capjamesg If so, I'd love to add your knowledge to airportpianos.org.
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aaronpk Oh I should have checked PDX just now
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aaronpk I will be back in two weeks
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