#indieweb 2023-05-22

2023-05-22 UTC
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[snarfed] 😆 https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/381#issuecomment-1557575785
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[chrisbergr] That sounds a bit extreme
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[snarfed] yup
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shreyanjain[m] <[snarfed]> "😆 https://github.com/snarfed/..." <- a little interesting that they were fine with using bridgy when it had twitter support but aren't now that it will have bluesky support?
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shreyanjain[m] * they were presumably fine with
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[snarfed] technically this is Bridgy Fed, not Bridgy
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shreyanjain[m] oh true
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shreyanjain[m] of course, people can do what they want
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shreyanjain[m] personally I think bluesky's got good intentions, as long as it doesn't become just another silo
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[snarfed] agreed. people do have a good point when they want a different structure, business model, etc than just another ads-based private company, though. definitely room for a wider variety of setups. intentions are nice but not always enough
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shreyanjain[m] also wish they had focused more on the community from the start vs so much on the product
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capjamesg I can't recommend this piece enough: https://www.alexmurrell.co.uk/articles/the-age-of-average
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capjamesg "In today’s extremely-online world, the vast availability of reference imagery has, perhaps counterintuitively, led to narrower thinking and shallower visual ideation. It’s a product of what I like to call the “moodboard effect”."
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[snarfed] so one next big step for Bridgy Fed is to let people sign up with fediverse accounts and federate them into the indieweb, ie the inverse of what it currently does. I'm starting to think through that now. https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/512
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Loqi [preview] [snarfed] #512 New account types, starting with ActivityPub
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[tantek] Whoa neat!
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[tantek] so ActivityPub -> Webmention ?
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[tantek] oh no I got nerdsniped into talking protocols in #indieweb
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Loqi hey [tantek], that's a lot of dev jargon! ActivityPub, nerdsniped... can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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[tantek] 💀
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benpate[m] [tantek]: Ha ha!! 👉
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[tantek] I blame [snarfed] for mentioning Bridgy Fed here, with AP in the link preview, which is primarily for developers to setup & use :trollface:
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[snarfed] i regret nothing
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[tantek] 🤡
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capjamesg What is IndieWebHoroscope?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "IndieWebHoroscope" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "IndieWebHoroscope is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg What is indieweb horoscope?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "indieweb horoscope" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "indieweb horoscope is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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capjamesg https://jamesg.blog/iwh/
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[tantek] 😬
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aaronpk omg
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aaronpk is this AI?
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capjamesg Yep.
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aaronpk that's hilarious
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capjamesg https://github.com/capjamesg/indieweb-horoscopes
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capjamesg Technically, you could use the project as a boilerplate for a lot of single-page AI apps.
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capjamesg [tantek] Any highlights from CMoS?
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[tantek] capjamesg, checkout the sections on punctuation
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[tantek] while the writing style / wording stuff is interesting, I find the punctuation sections particularly fascinating
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[aciccarello] Lol, that's great
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capjamesg On working on personal websites: "The real joy of this project wasn’t just in getting the search working but the refinement, the polish, the edge bits. Getting lost for hours in a world of my own construction."
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capjamesg https://www.wired.com/story/healing-power-javascript-code-programming/
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capjamesg "You feel like an alchemist. And you are. You type esoteric words— near gibberish—into a line-by-line text interface, and with a rush not unlike pulling Excalibur from the stone you've just scaffolded a simple application that can instantly be accessed by a vast number of humans worldwide."
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capjamesg "It's funny how even something as simple as a MYSQL database requires pruning, nurture. How a PHP script—so seemingly innocuous!—is rendered obsolete a decade later as deprecation creeps, mental models of languages evolve. But take a page of HTML from the early ’90s, and it renders as well as ever on most anything with a screen."
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bkil capjamesg: Aren't you forbidden from publishing AI-generated content?
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[schmarty] !jamesbot why would capjamesg be forbidden from publishing AI-generated content?
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capjamesg [schmarty] -> #chat
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capjamesg bkil No.
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capjamesg (!jamesbot isn't in this channel)
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[schmarty] we can safely gossip about jamesbot here, then ;}
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capjamesg :D
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[KevinMarks] Watch the linked video https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/1660588495369273344?s=2
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capjamesg Amazing video.
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