#indieweb 2023-08-31

2023-08-31 UTC
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GWG [tantek]: I feel appropriately prompted.
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[tantek] GWG -> #indieweb-meta 😄
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r​andomdsdevel (Moving from #indieweb-chat:)
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r​andomdsdevel > I can't reference where I said I'd make some notes about what I can look into doing in the spirit of this project the other day since this channel purposefully doesn't have logs enabled, but I've managed to write those 'some notes' down now: https://github.com/RandomDSdevel/discussions/discussions/2
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r​andomdsdevel > If anybody has any further, more concrete thoughts on anything in there and/or what I could do with it/in that direction, please feel free to chime in.
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[tantek] Your own GitHub is a great place to collect such notes. Some of us also use our User: pages for things that may benefit from easy linking to other pages on the wiki or feel like sharing with the community
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r​andomdsdevel OK, got it.
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "My Own Digital Garden On The Web Antonio Rodrigues included in English Personal 2023-08-30 315 words 2 minutes Contents I’ve been hearing and seeing some examples about Digital Gardens ..." https://antonio.is/2023/08/30/digital-garden/
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[Murray] ^ my partner has been experimenting with Obsidian, and looking at the files it produces, I feel like it could be an interesting "back end" for a digital garden; just needs to be paired with a front end that understands Markdown. Anyone know of any projects doing anything like that?
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capjamesg I have seen at least one but can't remember the name.
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capjamesg :(
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drakonic Hi everyone
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drakonic Re: the Obsidian question, there's Logseq, which is a pretty similar note-taking programs
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drakonic program*
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drakonic and it supports html export! I think.
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c​apjamesg Hello drakonic!
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[Murray] Thanks drakonic, I'm not actually looking for an alternative (sorry if poorly worded), but because there are quite a few tools out there that can turn Markdown files into websites (stuff like Eleventy and Astro), and because Obsidian writes all notes to Markdown files, I wondered if anyone had done an "Obsidian as database/back end" set up.
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[Murray] Mostly out of a morbid sense of curiosity/to get rid of a brain worm idea 😄
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[KevinMarks] do they put any kind of header on the markdown? that's the usual thing with 11ty and Hugo etc
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drakonic Ah, I see. I think I get what you mean now
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rubenwardy there's no header in obsidian files
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rubenwardy the title comes from the file name
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rubenwardy and the rest is just content
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rubenwardy *md files
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rubenwardy Tags are done by hashtags
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[benatwork] You _can_ have front matter in Obsidian md files, but it's not standard. https://help.obsidian.md/Editing+and+formatting/Properties
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[manton] There is also a http://Micro.blog publishing plug-in for Obsidian. Because it uses Micropub, probably could be adapted for any site. https://github.com/otaviocc/obsidian-microblog
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[Murray] Oh wow, very cool, I was literally chatting with someone earlier about Obsidian and Micropub. Thanks for all the info y'all
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[tantek] what is front matter
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Loqi frontmatter is a common way to include metadata in plain text https://indieweb.org/front_matter
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[tantek] ^ worth adding to that accordingly? it doesn't mention Obsidian currently [benatwork] [manton]
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[benatwork] I’ll add something
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j12t The next FediForum is coming up on Sept 20 and 21, "the unconference for the people who move the fediverse forward". FYI, I figure some people here might be interested in joining us, would be nice to have some IndieWeb / WebMention etc sessions. https://fediforum.org/ -- the site also has session notes and videos from software demos. (Anybody have something interesting to demo? let me know.)
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[snarfed] j12t++
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Loqi j12t has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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[tantek] j12t++ especially for the event permalinks at https://fediforum.org/2023-03/ and upcoming at https://fediforum.org/2023-09/ !
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Loqi j12t has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (4 in all channels)
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[tantek] if you or someone else here who is participating ([benatwork] [snarfed]) want to add an entry on http://events.indieweb.org that links to https://fediforum.org/2023-09/ — that would be great!
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[tantek] let's get it into this week's newsletter!
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[tantek] Also anyone here that has some cool IndieWeb especially site-to-site or search etc. stuff to demo, I *highly* encourage you to add something to register and propose a topic/demo like those listed at https://fediforum.org/2023-09/topics/
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[tantek] fediforum++
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Loqi fediforum has 1 karma over the last year
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[tantek] wow Twitter/X is now sending pw reset messages from info @ x . com (or it's a phishing message)
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aaronpk once twitter fully rebrands to X it will be completely dead to me
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aaronpk it's already about 70% dead to me
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[tw2113_Slack_] i have 2 people i still follow and will probably attempt to unfollow them soon. I’ll keep the account and RT for my employer, but that’s largely it. Maybe occasionally checking on trending topics
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aaronpk that's the thing it's not even a good place to check in on trending topics anymore
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[tantek] trending tabloid topics
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[tantek] interesting, they've started expiring some login cookies
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[tantek] hah when logged out if I check my profile my js;dr tweet/post is the second one listed on my "Posts" tab
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petermolnar https://www.businessinsider.com/social-media-dead-instagram-tiktok-bereal-replaced-group-chats-messaging-2023-8
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[tantek] hah yeah
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[tantek] I was reading that and trying to decide whether to add it to /social_media or /Instagram
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petermolnar to /why I'd say
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petermolnar the "So curated that you can't show what you're cooking for dinner, because that's not cool enough." at the beginning is important.
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petermolnar The trouble is that is becoming a generic feel with anything publicly share, including personal sites and blogs
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[tantek] it's more criticism of social media than a specific /why to post on your own site
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[tantek] agreed about the challenge of "generic feel with anything publicly share, including personal sites and blogs"
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[tw2113_Slack_] i mean yeah typically the trending section is still a dumpster fire, but it’s curious what i’m not missing out on
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