#indieweb 2023-11-20

2023-11-20 UTC
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sknebel
morning all
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[schmarty]
I suppose I should've seen that coming, ha
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[schmarty]
That's how abandoned domains are made!
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[jgarber]
The reply is both a valid critique _and_ an insult. A rare feat! 😂
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[tantek]
Last time I browsed the indieweb ring it was mostly independent blogs, not much "nerd stuff"
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[schmarty]
i think this group was not aware of an existent "indie web ring"
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aaronpk
interesting that the default assumption of an indiewebring is that it is nerd stuff, despite the proposal of an exactly named indiewebring to not be nerd stuff
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[tantek]
Literally top 5 googling results for indie web ring are for [schmarty]'s indieweb ring either directly or the wiki entry or posts about
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aaronpk
where's the fun in doing research first
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[jacky]
all of the icons!
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[aciccarello]
Haha, what even is a finished project
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[aciccarello]
I was thinking about creating an archive site for past versions of my website
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[aciccarello]
I figured I'm best off creating archives before I hit incompatibilities with old version of node or something
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[jacky]
that's a _good_ point
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[jacky]
tempted to print and tape that diagram somewhere
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[snarfed]
"Great art is never finished, only abandoned"
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[aciccarello]
That's a great quote
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[snarfed]
oh sorry there's no "great"! just "Art is never finished, only abandoned"
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[snarfed]
s/art/software/
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[aciccarello]
Sounds like there have been many adaptions of that from french over time https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/03/01/abandon/
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[snarfed]
funny, I've usually heard it attributed to Leonardo da Vinci, who's not even mentioned there
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[snarfed]
history is hard 🤷
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[aciccarello]
There's an interesting tie-in to commonplace books
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[aciccarello]
> In 1970 Auden published “A Certain World: A Commonplace Book”, and he included a slightly shorter version of the adage than he used in 1967:https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/03/01/abandon/#f+21874+1+12
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[tantek]
aciccarello re: "archive site for past versions of my website" I believe current best practice to to use a YYYY. subdomain for that, e.g. when you freeze/abandon a version, you move it to the subdomain and put your "new" version at your plain domain
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[aciccarello]
I was thinking of using an http://archive.ciccarello.me subdomain with paths for the year to make it easier to manage from a DNS perspective but it would add some work to fix the base paths.
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aaronpk
base path fiddling is exactly why i went with YYYY subdomains
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c​apjamesg
I would like that quote on a coffee cup [snarfed]!