#indieweb 2023-12-27

2023-12-27 UTC
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lockywolf Has anyone seen a reliable data extractor from Telegram?
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lockywolf Not just an rss-bridge for public channels, but an actual daemon which would act like a telegram client, and in real-time export arriving messages into html and store them on disk.
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tyil no, you'd probably be better off switching to a non-proprietary service if you want such control
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lockywolf how I'd better be is not the question I asked :)
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d​arylsun tantek: I have my profile page hosted on omg.lol, but with my own domain: https://darylsun.page/
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d​arylsun Is that an example you were looking for?
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d​arylsun [edit] tantek: I have my profile page hosted on omg.lol, but with my own domain: https://darylsun.page/
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d​arylsun Though I had to set that up using DNS records
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[tantek] Darylsun++ yes!
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Loqi Darylsun has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (2 in all channels)
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[tantek] What is omglol
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "omglol" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "omglol is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] omglol is /omg.lol
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Loqi ok
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[tantek] omglol << IndieWeb Example: https://darylsun.page/ is hosted on omg.lol
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Loqi ok, I added "IndieWeb Example: https://darylsun.page/ is hosted on omg.lol" to the "See Also" section of /omg.lol https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=91661&oldid=91651
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieFediWebVerse" https://kiko.io/post/IndieFediWebVerse/
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tenshidev Hi everyone! Somehow I've just found this community in late 2023, but here I am :) currently browsing around the resources on the site, a lot of interesting designs/protocols!
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jeremycherfas Welcome tenshidev
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tenshidev jeremycherfas: thanks!
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c​apjamesg Welcome tenshidev!
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[Joe_Crawford] Welcome tenshidev!
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ovid https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/111649692048120639
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ovid oof I'm not ovid
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[KevinMarks] Did you undergo metamorphoses?
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[KevinMarks] https://evanp.me/2023/12/26/big-fedi-small-fedi/
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GWG I've agreed to write content on a second website...how do I best link my contributions on the multi author site to my site and vice versa? Thoughts,
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[tantek] POSSE from your personal site to the second website, original post permalink on the copy
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GWG [tantek]: In this case, I'm the admin of both sites... wondering what else I can do.... I tried reposting on my site
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[tantek] The original should always go on your personal site, then syndicate it to the group / multi author site
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[tantek] We have done this with recent posts on http://microformats.org for example
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[tantek] This is fairly straightforward. What aspect are you having questions about
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[KevinMarks] Why << https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/26/blogging-freedom-outdated-format
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/26/blogging-freedom-outdated-format" to the "See Also" section of /why https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=91664&oldid=89187
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[tantek] Lol we now have 3 citations of that in the wiki
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[Joe_Crawford] I sent a brief email of thanks to Blackmarket Bakery for their help (particularly prompt sorting out why power was not working Sunday morning, hah, outlet was tied to the lights) with San Diego IWC and I got a nice brief email in return from Delilah the manager there: "Hi Joe!
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[Joe_Crawford] It was our pleasure we hope to see you again soon!
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[Joe_Crawford] Happy New Year!"
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[tantek] Wonderful! Thanks much [Joe_Crawford]++
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Loqi [Joe_Crawford] has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (11 in all channels)
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GWG [Joe_Crawford]: Tell them I'd like a tuna melt on the menu
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GWG [tantek]: Re the syndication, Issues with the person asking me to write stuf5
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[snarfed] federated a video post into the fediverse with Bridgy Fed just now, first time I've done that, mildly surprised (and relieved) that it worked!
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gRegor nice!
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[tantek] GWG, are they paying you? If not, you can definitely insist on posting on your own site first, then POSSEing to the secondary site. Otherwise it's still up for negotiation. I've turned down or rather insisted on POSSEing "invited authorships" before. Some folks are ok with it, one laughed and I was like your loss, this is how we roll on the IndieWeb (and no they were not paying for it).
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[tantek] It just goes to show how much some "publishers" (and I use that term loosely) feel/act entitled to the free labor of your writing that they want to publish first on their own site. Ok to question their entitlement even if it makes them laugh or mad. Their loss.
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[tantek] Or you can put a price on it yourself. Ask for $1000 for the privilege of them posting the article first on their site (but you get to post it on your own site shortly thereafter). $10k if they make you wait at all (like an embargo). $100k if they are asking for exclusive publishing rights. See what happens. Negotiate from there.
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[tantek] [snarfed] uh, out of curiosity, does that mean that video got copied to every server's "cache" that has a follower following you?
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[tantek] [Joe_Crawford] re: GWG wanting a tuna melt, I'd settle for having them stay stocked up on their vegan options (JustEgg™ and soyrizo) for the full weekend, if they're taking feedback/requests that is
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GWG [tantek]: My brother has never paid me in years of schemes
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[tantek] GWG, time to start invoicing
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GWG I did install Indieweb plugins on all the sites
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GWG Maybe I can write some code for this
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