#indieweb 2024-01-08

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[tantek] yes though that's a better discussion for #indieweb-dev
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[tantek] what is a featured section
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "featured section" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "featured section is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jacky https://gilest.org/indie-easy.html
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jacky this reminds me (to a degree) of yours truly (lol) https://archive.org/details/iwc-west-2020-opening-a-restaurant
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rubenwardy > Why not build static website generators that people can just unzip, upload to the shared hosting they’ve just paid for, and start using via a browser?
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rubenwardy Not sure that's an SSG
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rubenwardy A user friendly SSG would be a desktop application that exports a site... there's quite a few of those
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Loqi hey rubenwardy: it looks like this conversation is getting pretty technical (SSG), can you take it to #indieweb-dev?
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rubenwardy no
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rubenwardy You could have a web service for making sites that uploads them via FTP or scp
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rubenwardy But then you're getting quite close to just paying for a host like wordpress or wix
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c​apjamesg How can I get comments from Mastodon posts that mention a link to appear on my website?
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[snarfed] capjamesg no easy answer there, since there's no single global index of fediverse posts
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[snarfed] are Mastodon posts even in Google any more now that they're js;dr?
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[snarfed] you could try https://telegraph.p3k.io/superfeedr . that would only get you a small fraction of Mastodon posts, since most Mastodon accounts' RSS feeds probably aren't in Superfeedr, but it's still one idea
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[snarfed] on a related note, happy 12th birthday Bridgy! 🎂 🎈 https://brid.gy/about#history
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[snarfed] I feel old
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c​apjamesg [snarfed]++
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Loqi [snarfed] has 28 karma in this channel over the last year (112 in all channels)
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c​apjamesg You are still young.
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to2ds Happy B-Day Bridgy! 🎂🎉
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GWG [snarfed]: You always seem very energetic to me
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[tantek] [snarfed]++ happy birthday Bridgy++
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Loqi Bridgy has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (6 in all channels)
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[snarfed] thanks all!
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://whatpwacando.today/ (from https://snarfed.org/2024-01-08_what-pwa-can-do-today)
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[tantek] That graphic looks like PNA
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[Murray] Oooh I like that, useful little resource 👀
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to2ds PWA definitely looks cool!
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[Joe_Crawford] James you asked "How can I get comments from Mastodon posts that mention a link to appear on my website?" - this is a great question. I've had luck searching inside my own instance for a domain plus maybe a url slug. But it's dependent (uh, I think?) on my Instance having a user who follows the user, and it also seems like there's a time window that limits what comes up. All this has to be a result of the resource considerations but
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[Joe_Crawford] probably much more the decision for Mastodon to not allow full text search as the outset. It's kind of the limitation of Mastodon but also it reads to me like they consider it a feature.
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[snarfed] ^ yup, that all tracks
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[nsmsn] "How the internet reshaped itself around Google’s search algorithms — and into a world where websites look the same." https://www.theverge.com/c/23998379/google-search-seo-algorithm-webpage-optimization
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[tantek] How do I filter out such content from my searches?
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barnaby wow, horrible scrolling effects on that site. I assume it’s much easier to read without js?
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[nsmsn] barnaby, yeah Firefox's reader mode makes this a little less queasy
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[tantek] The premise is false. Cargo culting of inefficient js;dr AF libs/frameworks has resulted in sites on average being very slow and bad for "SEO"
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[nsmsn] I don't disagree with that. I was more interested in their argument about content: writing for incentives (search results, featured snippets, generated AI results, etc.) makes your words sound less human. Also how large newsrooms like the Guardian and New York Times in turn adjust their own content and design decisions to better accomodate Google's search algorithm. I'm not in the SEO world, so its interesting to read why both large publishers and
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[nsmsn] independent content farmers are making these choices.
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barnaby yeah that was my takeaway from that article too (most of which I already knew, but there were some interesting specific examples), nothing about js frameworks
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[tantek] what are independent content farmers?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "independent content farmers" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "independent content farmers is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] independent content farmers are /spam
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Loqi ok
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[tantek] barnaby that verge article looks wacky broken w/o JS
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barnaby heh, sounds about right. I’m happy for whoever presumably got paid a lot of money to make the fancy scroll effects but I aint gonna read them
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barnaby I think the article was supposed to make me feel bad for the “professional blogger” who maintains a bunch of blogs about all kinds of stuff and has to keep up with google’s algorithm changing, but those website are all so vapid and superficial, the opposite of what I’d ever want to find in search results. definitely agree with categorising them as /spam
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barnaby *websites
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[snarfed] I'm bringing the diagrams from the old Bridgy Fed home page back into BF's and Bridgy's docs. feedback is welcome! https://brid.gy/about#bridgy-fed , cc [tantek], thx for the nudge!
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[tantek] 👀
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c​apjamesg https://social.lol/@bw/111655821598915152
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c​apjamesg I now have that fantasy, too &
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c​apjamesg *^
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Loqi [preview] [Blake Watson :prami:] I have this fantasy where I live in this small village town where everyone is friendly and takes care of each other and my day job is the village web designer and one of my responsibilities is the local news website but it’s just stuff like Bob’s...
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[tantek] so you're saying you want to run a Mastodon instance for your small village town? 😂
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c​apjamesg Not quite haha.
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