#indieweb 2024-01-10

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[tantek] what is ISSN
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Loqi International Standard Serial Number (ISSN) is an identification number for periodicals that at least two IndieWeb community members have on their websites https://indieweb.org/ISSN
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[tantek] https://indieweb.org/ISSN#Jeffrey_Zeldman
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[KevinMarks] This is principles adjacent https://hachyderm.io/@hrefna/111723446983977812
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btrem https://chat.indieweb.org/2024-01-09/1704758637399400
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btrem [tantek] do you mean a static site generator? I use 11ty. But maybe you mean something else.
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btrem (Hmm. Normally, when I link to a single chat, Loqi helpfully inserts the text. Not this time. The link is to [tantek]'s question, "does anyone here use a static site CMS for their personal site?")
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btrem And now that I've read the further chat, in 11ty you could organize by tag, or by subdirectory. 11ty is pretty flexible when it comes to grouping content.
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[snarfed] :pouring_liquid: :saluting_face: https://github.com/aaronpk/OwnYourGram/issues/92#issuecomment-1884000607
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Loqi [preview] [aaronpk] OwnYourGram is effectively dead at this point anyway. I should just archive this repo.
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[tantek] btrem, no I mean static site CMS, see the difference in their definitions
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[tantek] what is a static site CMS
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Loqi A static site CMS is a CMS that can be used to view, edit, and create static files used by a static site generator https://indieweb.org/static_site_CMS
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://snarfed.org/2024-01-09_51810
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[tantek] what is an SSG
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Loqi A static site generator or SSG is software that developers can use to setup a personal site that uses a set of text content files typically stored on a server, and transforms them into a set of static HTML files for a website https://indieweb.org/SSG
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[tantek] hmm the CLI dependency should be in the dfn
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btrem Ah, sorry. So is wiki software a static site CMS?
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btrem Slightly related: one thing I don't like about 11ty is that the content and the config are mixed together. It makes it hard to separate the two, and means you can't easily create a clean repo for a specific 11ty config.
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[tantek] depends on the wiki software. MediaWiki is not since it uses MySQL
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[tantek] SSG << 11ty
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Loqi [tantek]: it seems like this conversation is more appropriate for #indieweb-dev (SSG)
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Loqi ok, I added "[[Eleventy]]" to the "See Also" section of /static_site_generator https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=92127&oldid=92126
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[tantek] lol yes
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btrem IOW, it's hard to share an 11ty setup that might server a specific need.
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btrem ...serve a specific need.
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btrem But I guess Loqi's suggestion probably applies to my chat, too. ;-) So I'll stop now.
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[aciccarello] [tantek] Eleventy is already in the list of SSGs on that page
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[tantek] oops
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aaronpk RIP ownyourgram
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aaronpk 34,644 photos rescued from silos
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Halian F
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barnaby 🦾
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[tantek] aaronpk, I'm wondering if/when IG adds an "auto-post to Threads" option, and then hopefully later this year anyone will be able to opt-in to having their Threads feed followed from Mastodon etc., and then perhaps OwnYourThreads becomes a replacement for OwnYourGram!
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[tantek] will take the ASCII art diagram to #indieweb-dev
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aaronpk that'd be .... interesting
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[schmarty] snarfed++ wow what an announcement for bridgy fed!
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[jacky] who's going to be the first to POSSE from this? https://hu.ma.ne/aipin
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[KevinMarks] https://fromjason.xyz/p/notebook/where-have-all-the-websites-gone/
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c​apjamesg HWC London / Europe is on this evening. https://events.indieweb.org/2024/01/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-rQqpkGEHxs88
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c​apjamesg Join us online!
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[tantek] 👀
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[tantek] 116 minutes until HWC London / Europe! https://events.indieweb.org/2024/01/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-rQqpkGEHxs88
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2024-01-10 7:00pm UTC (#7090)
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[tantek] I mean Loqi should be announcing these in #indieweb-meta anyway but that's a separate feature request 🙂
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[tantek] (announcing them when they go live)
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to2ds "Where have all the websites gone?" - They've been here for almost two decades waiting patiently for big social to implode.
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sebbu to2ds, well, i know someone with a blog that is dead since over 2 years, but his twitter isn't dead
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sebbu he could have made all the various pinned tweets (changed over time) as blogpost, that would have been enough
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to2ds sebbu - Seems the users don't like to venture outside the walled gardens.
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sebbu well, the blog was also a walled garden (fc2)
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sebbu :D
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to2ds :)
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to2ds Not sure what's worse. The walled gardens or the paywalled gardens. Felt like almost every link out from big social was to a paywall of some sort.
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[snarfed] gotta pay for journalism and writers somehow. the alternative is ads, which arguably turned out worse
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[snarfed] sorry, #indieweb-chat territory
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[tantek] what is business model
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Loqi business models are ways to offer indieweb products and or services that users pay for both for their own benefit, and in support an open indie web https://indieweb.org/business-model
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to2ds [snarfed] - True. Would be nice to have a label or similar to let us know first. It's almost like the Griswold's finally making it to Wally World and it was closed for repairs 😄
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to2ds Does Loqi know everything?
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[snarfed] everywhere except Discord 😆
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c​apjamesg 🙈
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[aciccarello] Gives Loqi knowledge of the universe
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[aciccarello] Case sensitive?
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[aciccarello] gives Loqi knowledge of the universe
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Loqi HWC London / Europe! https://events.indieweb.org/2024/01/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-rQqpkGEHxs88
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Loqi Countdown set by [tantek] on 2024-01-10 at 5:04pm UTC
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[tantek] aciccarello you have to /me it
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capjamesg HWC is on now. Join us!
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to2ds It was great to meet everyone in HWC Europe/London!
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c​apjamesg to2ds++
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c​apjamesg Likewise!
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lazcorp Another really interesting HWC - thank you!
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k​jj_karen It was great to meet everyone in HWC London - thanks for your help and have a great week!
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[tantek] welcome kjj_karen++
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