#indieweb 2024-01-11

2024-01-11 UTC
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to2ds Rooting for you kjj_karen++
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Loqi kjj_karen has 2 karma over the last year
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[jacky] https://op3.dev/ looks interesting
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aaronpk omg I hate everything about this
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to2ds Have no clue what a prefix analytics service is 😳
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[KevinMarks] it's a logging proxy
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Zegnat When your introduction starts with “In advertising technology, data is everything.” … (from https://soundsprofitable.com/article/podcast-prefix-analytics-explained/)
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Zegnat I think the interesting part of OP3 is that you can run it yourself. So if you opt to use a third-party hosting platform for your podcast, you can still have (a copy of) the statistics yourself
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tyil there's plenty of self-hostable analytics systems already, though, and it seems most creators really don't care one bit about the privacy of their userbase
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tyil they just want simplicity for them, no matter the cost to anyone else
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tyil (and generally the analytics arent even telling them anything new, its just very hip to have metrics)
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rubenwardy looks like t.co or any other tracker
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[KevinMarks] social reader << https://joanwestenberg.com/blog/curation-is-the-last-best-hope-of-intelligent-discourse
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Loqi ok, I added "https://joanwestenberg.com/blog/curation-is-the-last-best-hope-of-intelligent-discourse" to the "See Also" section of /social_reader https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=92161&oldid=88938
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[campegg] I can relate: https://so.nwalsh.com/2024/01/06-mastodon
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Loqi [preview] [Norman Walsh] You can’t follow me
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lazcorp [campegg] I'm trying to do exactly the same, and that at least makes me less worried if I fail
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[campegg] lazcorp, yeah, me too. I think it's a pretty common story… but it's always nice to know we're not the only ones with a problem 🙂
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Enshittification and user domestication" https://seirdy.one/notes/2024/01/11/enshittification-and-user-domestication/
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[aciccarello] Interesting that they are trying to test from a local mastodon instance. Seems like an extra burden.
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lazcorp [aciccarello] yes, I'm just doing it the easy way and uploading my code to production and seeing what's broken :)
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[aciccarello] Haha, I mean opening a test account on an existing server.
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lazcorp I'm guessing that if they have their static site with the activity pub code on their local machine then a real Mastodon server wouldn't be able to access it, so they need a local Mastodon server that can communicate with their local site development environment
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to2ds Creating your own ActivityPub server is definitely a learning experience
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lazcorp I've got my website ActivityPub profile displaying when checking from Mastodon now, which is weirdly satisfying. My next step is the more difficult bit of setting up the inbox and outbox
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to2ds Very cool. Can't remember the post ATM, but it focused on creating a presence with static files only. No inbox capabilities though.
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to2ds Tiptoeing here so Loqi won't shoo me to dev chat 😁
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[aciccarello] Probably is getting more dev
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to2ds Agreed.
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[tantek] to2ds I believe it's on the /Mastodon page (that post about creating a presence with static files only)
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[tantek] I think we discussed it at IWC SD in fact! When we were coming up with a way to replace / obvious the need for some of the poorly designed discovery stuff that Mastodon and others are using (for legacy or other reasons)
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to2ds Thank you [tantek]
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to2ds Is webfinger problematic for discovery?
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barnaby https://indieweb.org/WebFinger#Problems
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to2ds Thank you. Loved the comic BTW!
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[tantek] yes, and to not mention that jargon term again I suggest #indieweb-dev for more discussion of it
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[tantek] btw some of us were chatting informally about domain renewal rent-hikes and I found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/8vu9ck/godaddy_asks_for_2000year_for_the_domain_name_i/
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to2ds Definitely a term for #indieweb-dev 😊
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to2ds That's a lot of money for a domain.
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