#indieweb 2024-02-02
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Game Hiii
# mandaris I got it working. Thank you! I just wanted to follow up.
# [Al_Abut] Yay!
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# BIC Good morning (afternoon, night)!
# BIC wondering if there are any website creators in here that would follow POSSE rules, could create a blog and website following web 1.0 principles for reasonable price?
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jeremycherfas Welcome BIC. Have you looked at offerings like micro.blog?
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# BIC yeah. I have messed around with that, but it veers a little too social for my taste. Really just want a website where I can house my projects and a blog (with a few programmed bells and whistles which I utilize for my blogging often)
# jeremycherfas Understood. I'm told WordPress is becoming more IndieWeb friendly but I don't use it that way myself.
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# BIC I have spent a good portion of my life using Wordpress and kind of want to avoid it like the plague unless I absolutely have to. Haha.
# jeremycherfas Understood completely :)
# BIC appreciate the help though
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# [snarfed] this is fun, and well written: https://www.theverge.com/24058356/trolls-social-media-commenter-lurker-reply-guy-threads
# [snarfed] like http://tantek.pbworks.com/w/page/19403022/TrollTaxonomy and others before it
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[KevinMarks] All the way back to Bartle
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# [Al_Abut] [snarfed] I like Elizabeth Lopatto’s writing, she’s hilarious on other platforms. The Verge has surprisingly useful author pages with a mix of inline short updates and links to long form articles:
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# _tommys hello, i've been working on a few pages on Neocities which has been a really inspiring return to having a website of my own 😄 https://tsxyz.neocities.org
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capjamesg[d] I like your website _tommys[d] !
# capjamesg[d] The book club page is really readable.
# _tommys thank you 😄
# _tommys i was really excited to do that one. the other 2 were more of a curiosity project, doing it just to do it yknow, but the book club page has a real utility because it serves as a permanent record, and it's easy to lookup whose turn it is next to pick a book - so i'm really pleased about that 😄
# capjamesg[d] What is a book?
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Loqi 📚 A book is a written work typically longer than an article, on the indieweb, there are examples of publishing whole books on IndieWeb sites, as well as collections of their personal library of books both physical and electronic https://indieweb.org/book
# capjamesg[d] Ah!
# capjamesg[d] Wrong page.
# capjamesg[d] What is a personal library?
# Loqi 📚 A personal library is an online collection of books and other media that reflects either physical or digital items one owns, wants to acquire, has bookmarked to read/watch/listen to, is currently doing so, or has in the past https://indieweb.org/personal_library
# capjamesg[d] You might find that page interesting _tommys[d] ^
# capjamesg[d] There are lots of people who publish the books they have read as a list on their website!
# _tommys ah great idea!
# capjamesg[d] If you say "what is ____"?, our bot will jump in to try and help.
# _tommys the 'what is' term as it relates to Indieweb?
# _tommys or anything?
# capjamesg[d] Yes indeed.
# capjamesg[d] The IndieWeb.
# _tommys that's cool, what a great idea!
# capjamesg[d] The wiki is a great place to look for inspiration (and to share what you have made, too, so other people can be inspired!).
# capjamesg[d] What is fun?
# Loqi 😄 fun is one of the IndieWeb principles and a key motivation for the IndieWeb — making and using your own website should be fun, otherwise what’s the point? https://indieweb.org/fun
# _tommys 😄
# _tommys what is neocities?
# capjamesg[d] Oh... aaronpk[d] the what is might not work for all Discord users 😬
# capjamesg[d] What is Neocities?
# Loqi NeoCities is a free website hosting silo in the spirit of defunct silo GeoCities (Yahoo shutdown in 2009) that looks like a stepping stone to getting started on the IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/NeoCities
# _tommys haha sorry aaronpk, another one for the todo list lol
# _tommys what's your take on Neocities? it doesn't seem to comply with your 1st principle
# capjamesg[d] I love it.
# capjamesg[d] The principles are a rough guide; you can take the ones that matter to you.
# _tommys cool 🙂
# capjamesg[d] There are a lot of fun sites on Neocities! And it's easier to get started than it is on other platforms.
# _tommys it feels like less commitment than buying a domain and hosting, which then feels like an 'ought to' cos i'm spending money, rather than a 'want to' because it's fun
# _tommys at least that's how my brain works lol
# _tommys sorry to so many questions lol, i am intrigued: how do you square 'longevity' with the need to pay for hosting?
# capjamesg[d] You can ask as many questions as you'd like!
# _tommys fair 🙂
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# _tommys oh cool
# _tommys 38k though, yikes lol
# _tommys that's cool 🙂
# _tommys i think i'd like to start documenting my processes, what i've learned, how i did x - i really like the idea of that minimalist microblogging 'twtxt' format for that, seems low friction, or maybe something that pulls in from a mastodon account
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[tantek] indeed, http://micro.blog is the best for that with least hassle
# capjamesg[d] _tommys[d] I love reading about how people did things.
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# _tommys i think i'll style on a mastodon rss feed. part of the challenge for me is seeing how much i can get done without spending a penny 😄
# _tommys i have a self-hosted music streaming service my friend and i use, which was really fun to learn and setup and in the end it costs less than Spotify, and has more functionality. super proud of that
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# [Al_Abut] Hi _tommys - love that you’re reading Chuck Palahniuk on your club page. I read his sequel to Fight Club because it came out as a graphic novel, absolutely mind-blowing stuff.
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[aciccarello] I'm surprised there aren't more services to do that with a static site
# [aciccarello] Seems like that could be an opportunity for some business.
# Loqi ok, I added "https://wordpress.com/blog/2023/08/25/introducing-the-100-year-plan/" to the "See Also" section of /longevity https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=92842&oldid=91821
# Loqi ok, I added "https://posthaven.com/pledge , https://posthaven.com/help#archive-mode" to the "See Also" section of /longevity https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=92843&oldid=92842
# [tantek] longevity << https://archiveprogram.github.com/arctic-vault/
# Loqi ok, I added "https://archiveprogram.github.com/arctic-vault/" to the "See Also" section of /longevity https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=92844&oldid=92843
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# BitSapien good search engine to find indie sites?
# fury999io BitSapien, wiby.me
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Wiby" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Wiby is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [aciccarello] Some info here https://indieweb.org/search#Alternate_Search_Engines
# [aciccarello] I recall seeing a few other services recently. I'll have to remember to save them.
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# [Al_Abut] FYI, as of 8am this morning, you can schedule a free demo of the Apple Vision Pro in store for next week. We had a good discussion at Wed’s HWC about webvr, 3D and virtual spaces.
# [Al_Abut] That was a missed humorous opportunity on Wed when we were looking at Gather and similar virtual meeting spaces
# [Al_Abut] My initial reaction was horrifying but then I heard some pretty fun use cases around events and conferences
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# _tommys [Al_Abut]: oh! i didn't know there was a sequel to fight club 😮
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# _tommys bitsapien - can't speak to the quality but i came across this recently https://search.marginalia.nu/
# [tantek] block << 2024-02-02 Derek Powazek: [https://powazek.com/posts/3591 On Blocking] <blockquote>…blocking should be considered an agreement between a community member and the site itself. (I’m going to say “site” here but it could also be an app or the community leader or moderation team, etc.)</blockquote>
# Loqi ok, I added "2024-02-02 Derek Powazek: [https://powazek.com/posts/3591 On Blocking] <blockquote>…blocking should be considered an agreement between a community member and the site itself. (I’m going to say “site” here but it could also be an app or the community leader or moderation team, etc.)</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /block https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=92865&oldid=86876
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