#indieweb 2024-02-05
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[KevinMarks] I assume you are being ironic about HN not being trolly
# [KevinMarks] Given that PG defines feminism as trolling
# [KevinMarks] That's what the post you cite is about
# [KevinMarks] “The core users of News.YC are mostly refugees from other sites that were overrun by trolls. They feel about trolls roughly the way refugees from Cuba or Eastern Europe feel about dictatorships” is rather loaded
# [KevinMarks] Yes, that's good. Less snarky than I would have been tempted to write. Gresham's law is an interesting analogy, as what it says is that people pass on the forged money and keep the real coins, so the forgeries circulate more rapidly. Which is rather like the way sensational lies spread faster than truth.
# [KevinMarks] Yes, it's Bartle again. Too many clubs drive out the hearts. You're saying too many spades do too.
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[aciccarello] [tantek] Still working on it. I always fall into the trap of wanting to write too much.
# [aciccarello] I also have been interrupted a few times today.
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cambridgeport90_ [0x3b0b]/heads to sleep
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWebCamp San Diego 2023" https://www.ciccarello.me/blog/2024/02/05/indiewebcamp-san-diego-2023/
# [aciccarello] I might need to do some editing tomorrow when I've rested but at least it's out in the world now.
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# undeadredhead hello? anyone alive in here?
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bacardi55[m] o/
# undeadredhead hey there :)
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# [20_s_Net] I'm still here
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: "We have the Host for IndieWeb Carnival for the Entire Year 2024 (and Beyond)" https://sarajaksa.eu/2024/02/we-have-the-host-for-indieweb-carnival-for-the-entire-2024-and-beyond/
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# [KevinMarks] BBC podcast on the rise of the silos https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m001w207?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
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[tantek] ok reviews and ratings folks, where did the default 1-5 rating scale come from? I feel I have found numerous flaws that would be solved by a simple addition of the use of "0" (zero) to ground the lower end of the scale, or in many cases reducing the rating scale to -1, 0, 1. What am I missing? Why are people/experts and orgs so stuck on 1-5 (star) ratings? (yes I'm thinking about a blog post about this)
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# [KevinMarks] I suspect that if you're showing stars in print, 0 is difficult to do clearly
# [KevinMarks] True, that's how Michelin works which may be the oldest
# gibru in the past, I've seen this problem solved by using five star outlines (0) and for each rating you simply show a full star e.g. five star outlines, three of them filled is a rating of 3 out of 5
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# [KevinMarks] Wikipedia has lots of examples with 0 stars. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_(classification)
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# [KevinMarks] We originally looked at a lot of sites and picked the mode I think https://microformats.org/wiki/review-examples
# [snarfed] single personal data point, I found that -1/0/1 was the right level of granularity for my own ratings, eg https://snarfed.org/books . I ended up thinking too much about 0/1-5
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# shreyan not directly indieweb, but some of you may find this interesting, as it's very indieweb-y in spirit: https://graysky.app/blog/2024-02-05-adding-blog-comments
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# [aciccarello] Looking forward to the 1-5 thumb rating 😁
# [KevinMarks] I use Google maps that way, places either get 5 stars or unrated.
# [KevinMarks] I did rate one local pub 3 because they brought me 3 off beers in a row, but then the landlord argued.
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: https://snarfed.org/2024-02-05_52058
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "publishing client" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "publishing client is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "blogging client" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "blogging client is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[Murray] But I do think that "fits my mental model" is the only _useful_ part of that. That works for me. I imagine it won't work for other people. Personally, -1, 0, 1 would be far too restrictive, and feel too harsh. That seems like there are two failing grades and one pass, seems pessimistic (though I understand that won't be the way other people read/think about it)
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# [snarfed] new backfeed implementation! https://graysky.app/blog/2024-02-05-adding-blog-comments
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