#indieweb 2024-02-06

2024-02-06 UTC
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_tommys
capjamesg[d] i updated my site to contain the latest updates and a bit about my process šŸ™‚
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_tommys
https://tsxyz.neocities.org - there's the 4 most recent toots, which are from my indieweb.social profile, and then a page that documents them all at /micro šŸ˜„
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_tommys
[edit] https://tsxyz.neocities.org - there's the 4 most recent toots, which are from my indieweb.social profile, and then a page that documents them all at /micro šŸ˜„
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capjamesg
Amazing work _tommys[d]!
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_tommys
thanks šŸ˜„ you said you liked to see the process, and i'd wanted to try out some methods of documenting it that were relatively low friction, and i think this works for me šŸ™‚
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_tommys
i can see that marginalia.nu relies on manually populated list of domains for it's search index - has there ever been an established protocol for 'signaling' that your website is on the indieweb?
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_tommys
i'm thinking like a meta tag that an indie web crawler would recognise. but wouldn't be prone to abuse.. lol
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darylsun
Tangentially related, but I actually saw a link to a NSFW site on Marginalia once... I didn't know how to report it
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sknebel
I dont think marginalia has a policy of excluding NSFW content?
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darylsun
Oh! I didn't know
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_tommys
i'm not too familiar with Marginalia, but i would hope that's not permitted or should be flagged at least!
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[tantek]
I need to get better about checking my mentions on http://micro.blog
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[tantek]
One of the top results when I searched on http://marginalia.nu was to a 2019 thread where apparently I had "liked" a bunch of tweets and it looked real bad in http://micro.blog (like broken spam). Pretty sure I stopped putting likes in my feed to http://micro.blog so that shouldn't be a problem but I should have seen it at the time
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[tantek]
[eddie]++ for helping out at the time
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Loqi
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[tantek]
seems IndieWeb-topic/relevant, maybe worth IndieNewsing? https://thehistoryoftheweb.com/weve-been-waiting-20-years-for-this/
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aigoo
@aaronpk: you still use IRC?
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[tantek]
what is discuss?
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Loqi
šŸ’¬ Join the #indieweb discussion via the web, Slack, IRC, Discord, or Matrix clients now with additional channels for dev, wordpress, and meta specific chat! https://indieweb.org/discuss
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[tantek]
aigoo ^ you have options. though I think the Matrix bridge is down so I should update that
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mahboubine
hi everyone
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capjamesg
Hello mahboubine!
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capjamesg
Welcome!
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mahboubine
came here because a post by aaron is on the frontpage of hackernews
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capjamesg
I just saw that. Aaron is indeed here.
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capjamesg
Do you have a website?
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capjamesg
What's your domain name (if you don't mind me asking :))?
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mahboubine
yusuf.fyi
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mahboubine
why are you interested
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capjamesg
It's a common opening question here!
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mahboubine
oh right, forgot I am on #indieweb
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capjamesg
Yeah šŸ˜„
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mahboubine
well I am using webmentions to add comments to my site
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capjamesg
I like the font you use on your site.
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capjamesg
Very cool.
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mahboubine
thank you!
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capjamesg
My domain is jamesg.blog.
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mahboubine
I love the retro style
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DusteD
mahboubine, I also just joined this channel because I (re)read aarons post, didn't realize it was on libera :P
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DusteD
(the indieweb stuff, which I've still not quite figured out how is different from what I've done since 1999)
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mahboubine
I am actually the poster of the hackernews post. the reason I posted was particularly to find out if aaron was still active on irc or not
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aaronpk
haha yes i am
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capjamesg
DusteD Welcome!
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capjamesg
aaronpk++ for your work on all things IRC in the community.
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Loqi
aaronpk has 8 karma in this channel over the last year (114 in all channels)
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mahboubine
nice to meet you!
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mahboubine
love your work.
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aaronpk
thanks :)
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sodimel
Hi! I'm a french dev and I saw the post on hn too, great post aaronpk :)
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capjamesg
Welcome, sodimel!
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aaronpk
thanks sodimel :)
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sodimel
I must also say that I already stumbled across the indieweb website, and that I read several pages on its wiki. I really like the "people-focused" spirit :)
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sodimel
So thanks indieweb for being here :)
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capjamesg
You are most welcome!
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capjamesg
We are indeed people focused. The web is made of and by people, after all!
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sodimel
Wow, I really must take inspiration of Known for the layout of the readme of a small project of mine. That's a service to store/organize/share links (open source of course, my own instance is selfhosted on an old dell optiplex fx160 in my home :D).
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capjamesg
šŸ˜„
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capjamesg
I use Known to store my bookmarks.
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capjamesg
And likes.
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capjamesg
Which are mostly about Garfield haha.
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sodimel
Nice!
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sodimel
My project is named "share-links", you can take a look at the only instance (afaik) up and running just here: https://links.l3m.in/en/
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capjamesg
Oooh, very nice!
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sodimel
I *should* add tags & descriptions, but I can't find the time to sort all the links right now :P
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capjamesg
This is very cool.
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capjamesg
The layout is nice.
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sodimel
You can find a list of features in the readme on the repo (https://gitlab.com/sodimel/share-links).
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capjamesg
The random link feature is fun!
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aaronpk
i just updated the little banner on my 2015 post that's on HN since things have changed quite a bit since then
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sodimel
Thanks, I spent a lot of time thinking about the menu. The horizontal scrolling seems to be effective on mobiles, and it's fun on computers too :D
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capjamesg
I love clicking links šŸ˜‚
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capjamesg
This site is, to me, like candy is to a child šŸ˜„
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sodimel
(I set the browser default page to the random link, so each time I open my browser I find another cool *curated* article :D)
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sodimel
Ahah :D
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sodimel
There's tons of interesting things wandering on the web, I can't see and store all of them but my collection of links is growing nearly every day, and they are all interesting (at least for me :D).
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DusteD
I'm having a lot of fun running a little, very manual webring, so people send links my way, it's a fun way to interact with people, when I accept someones site I usually make an effort to write welcome to them in their guestbook or mail them if I can :)
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ffflick
where are people coming from?
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ffflick
or is it just a small irl circle of people
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capjamesg
A few people have come from Hacker News today.
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capjamesg
But, generally, people come from everywhere!
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DusteD
inspired by my application process to tilde.town (a community I since left due to some differences of opinon), but what tickled my fancy was that I wasn't let in for more than a week because the person running it had other stuff to take care of and didn't have time to look at applications, charming I thought!
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capjamesg
People come through stumbling upon the community online, referrals from existing members, blog posts, Homebrew Website Club, in person events (although these are infrequent), and more!
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[tantek]
what is beyond blogging
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Loqi
The indieweb is different from previous efforts like blogging, federation, decentralization, etc https://indieweb.org/beyond_blogging
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ffflick
DusteD: oops meant to tag you lol, i was asking about your webring
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capjamesg
Oh haha. My bad šŸ˜„
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capjamesg
šŸ¤¦
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[tantek]
DusteD re: different from 1999 ^ see that. hmm perhaps I should make a shortcut
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DusteD
fflick, so, my webring made frontpage on HN for long enough that the word got around, initially, most people must have come from there, but then it spread via rss and other news sites, it's been a year or more, so I don't know how people learn of it these days, maybe from other sites that are members
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mahboubine
care to share your webring?
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DusteD
sure, it's called geekring.net :)
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[tantek]
what is different from 1999?
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Loqi
The indieweb is different from previous efforts like blogging, federation, decentralization, etc https://indieweb.org/different_from_1999
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[tantek]
there we go
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DusteD
[tantek], thank you, I'll have a looksie! ^_^
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[tantek]
and appreciate the questions and welcome DusteD++
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Loqi
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mahboubine
cool webring, dusted, I'll probably add the widget and request to join at the end of the week
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sodimel
Huhu, I wanted to add your webring to my share-links instance, but it's already saved :D
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DusteD
Cool, I'll be looking forward, you can add the widget after acceptance and your site gets a number for the wiget (I know I could make this automatic, but I like having this little finicky part where some human interaction can happen)
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DusteD
[tantek], maybe I can't see what indieweb is because it's what I feel like I've been doing always? hosting my own site, own domain, on server hardware on my own internet connection in my home, building and using my own tool for it? Maybe I'm missing some technical stuff ? integration of some APIs or something?
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DusteD
I need to really sit down and read through the thing some day, to find out what it "is" what I need to implement or do to "be part" of it
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Loqi
hey DusteD: I don't mean to be a bother, but APIs, implement seems like a better conversation for #indieweb-dev
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[snarfed]
DusteD sounds like you're there in spirit! the next step is a few bits of plumbing, especially microformats and webmentions. details on the wiki, feel free to follow up in #indieweb-dev
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DusteD
I mean, I massively agree with the ideas and principles I read on the site, I'm in no way challenging it, but I'm not sure exactly how to participate ^_^
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DusteD
[snarfed], Okay, I'll do that, I'll do some more homework on it before joining there and starting to ask questions :)
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[snarfed]
also lots of people here like self hosting like you're doing, but we don't feel like it's strictly necessary, and it imposes a pretty heavy admin tax. we focus more on 1) using your own domain and 2) using a server that lets you easily export your data
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[snarfed]
even fully managed services like http://micro.blog can be fully indieweb in both spirit and practice
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[snarfed]
pretty important if we want it to reach more than just technical people
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DusteD
[snarfed], oh I understand that, I think that'd be a silly piece of gatekeeping to require, and self-hosting has only become more and more annoying with time :)
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[tantek]
DusteD in a metaphorical sense, the difference is between an island and an archipelago, or literally a node and a network
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sodimel
I will leave (time to sleep!), it was really cool to finally join this irc server and speak to a few of you, have a good day/night, bye :)
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mahboubine
bye, sodimel !
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capjamesg
Thanks for joining today sodimel!
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[0x3b0b]
This month's Glitch Code Jam (which is apparently a thing Glitch does) is a blogroll
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[0x3b0b]
sort of
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capjamesg
Iā€™m curious!
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[0x3b0b]
https://glitch.com/jams/ To be more precise, the code jam tag is "welcometomyblog" and that's about making glitch projects that are _about_ blogging, and they are also creating a blogroll that is presumably for bloggers who also use glitch but not necessarily for blogs _on_ glitch. I misread it at first.
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[0x3b0b]
what is glitch in bio?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "glitch in bio" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "glitch in bio is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
what is Glitch
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Loqi
Glitch (formerly Gomix, HyperDev before that) is a tool allowing you to quickly prototype web applications in a complete IDE with built in version control, sharing, custom domain support, and more https://indieweb.org/Glitch
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