#indieweb 2024-03-13

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gRegor Neat blogroll concept to rotate out some featured blogs and link to the full list: https://weblog.anniegreens.lol/blogroll
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[aciccarello] I just posse'd a couple articles to Medium. I've moved away from it because of the usability issues but I do wonder if it actually helps with discovery or SEO.
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[aciccarello] I looked up an older post and it only showed my site's version in Ecosia. I did fine another blog post I had shared to Medium that didn't have my canonical URL...
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[contact898] when I had a relatively big blog I used the medium repost feature and while I had medium traffic, there were barely any readers going from medium to the blog
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[contact898] it's nice to have an extra audience for no effort I guess, but it doesn't do much for your blog itself in my experience
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[tantek] interesting. maybe worth noting on /Medium#POSSE
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[contact898] will do at some point then :) iirc this is from 2017 or so so might not still be accurate, but doesn't hurt to add it anyway I guess
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[tantek] It's fine to note a past experience like that, and date it accordingly, noting exactly as you said, that it might not still be accurate
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[Scout] ↩️ ha! you're so productive! i think if i have a presentable site in 2 months, i am gonna be pleased 😆
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synth Found this via ycombinator. Indiekit looks awesome but I do not have experience building applications via node.js and I have little inclination to learn. Any similar projects written in golang, java or python? I would be happy to contribute
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GWG synth: I think we have a variety of ones in various languages indexed.
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capjamesg Hello synth! I recommend searching around our wiki!
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capjamesg One community member makes Publ, written in Python, which may be interesting to you: https://indieweb.org/Publ
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Loqi synth, capjamesg: would you mind moving this conversation (golang, Node.js, Python) to #indieweb-dev? thanks!
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[Scout] i'm going on holiday in a week. like a real proper far away place with a pool and all that. like a grown-up. how do i explain to my wife that i'm planning to take my laptop and work on my site a bit?
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] GitHub might be a good place to find projects, too (and you can filter by language): https://github.com/topics/indieweb
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synth Thanks for the pointers. Will move to dev for future questions. See you guys around
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[Scout] ↩️ this was meant to go into #indieweb-chat! i'd move it but editing is turned off. i suppose this is by design but how annoying 😆
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[tantek] Welcome synth++
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[tantek] What kind of user functionality are looking to add or create on your site?
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[tantek] some really interesting results here so far: https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan/112089576884146559
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[tantek] e.g. "too expensive" is the LEAST problem for people
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jackyalcine "nothing to put there" is a different kind of currency I wasn't expecting tbh given microblogging
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[contact898] I'm not too surprised
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[contact898] we still have a big "blog = high effort well-made content"
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[qubyte] So many factors could be feeding into that result. For some it could be that mastodon is sufficient to scratch their itch. 🤷‍♂️
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[tantek] jackyalcine, right, if people are posting on Masto then they obviously have something to put there!
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[tantek] [qubyte] or they don't realize somehow that their website could be their masto presence?
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[tantek] I'm not surprised by the "too complicated" or "don't have the time" answers.
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[qubyte] That’s a given, I’d say.
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[qubyte] The clarification the author gives about what he means in the follow up toot only makes it less obvious.
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[qubyte] That the two are distinct, I mean.
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jacky https://indiewebguides.org/ re: guides to the indieweb
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[snarfed] my favorite result of that poll is that 60% do have a web site!
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] https://indiewebguides.org/guide-1/ is precisely the thought I had in mind for my IndieWebCamp project. I wonder, is better to have guides like this on a separate website, or on the wiki (or both)?
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gRegor Love the design of that site. I think the thing we run into with separate sites is they're not always kept up to date. I think that site is from 2018, for example.
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[tantek] exactly. when it's forked from the community, it usually ends up as a pretty timecapsule
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] Maybe there could be an opportunity to consolidate?
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jacky think it'd be worthwhile; esp with it permitting for audience-specific content
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] Indeed. Perhaps a /guides/ section on the wiki, for which content is more ‘pristine’ shall we say, and which can be linked to from the homepage. And maybe existing equivalent pages could redirect once comparable? Lots of ideas swirling!
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jacky https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started attempts to do this (segmenting into those two bigger groups)
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[tantek] [Paul_Robert_Ll] perhaps a bit meta, but there were other "big" attempts at guides/tutorials, even on the wiki, which subsequently were barely if at all updated
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[tantek] what are tutorials
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Loqi 🎉 Get started on the indieweb by connecting with the IndieWeb community, getting a personal domain, a place for your content, and setting up your home page and other IndieWeb essentials https://indieweb.org/Tutorials
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[tantek] ok that link should work now to scroll you to the Tutorials
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[tantek] will take Tutorial meta discussion to #indieweb-meta
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jacky gotta hop (from IWC); see y'all!
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jacky *HWC
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capjamesg Thank you for joining, jacky!
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capjamesg It was great seeing you!
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capjamesg I didn't have the chance to ask: what inspired you to start learning Clojure?
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jacky ha, a job required it! it was very easy to pick up (for me, I had experience with Elixir which eased me in)
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jacky I still play with languages like that (mainly Fennel to Lua for random stuff)
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[tantek] wait it was still going?!?
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[tantek] 👀
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[tantek] oh my goodness https://indieweb.org/days_since_last_domain_purchase_at_HWC
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[Joao_Paulo_Pes] what is /meta?
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Loqi meta in the IndieWeb may refer to the HTML <meta> tag, the meta discussion channel, the Meta Platforms company (FKA Facebook), or a general expression that something is about something https://indieweb.org/meta
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[Joao_Paulo_Pes] Is `/meta` page a thing in the indie web? Like to explain how you build your website? I'm always intrigued about people's workflows. Just published mine at https://pesce.cc/meta and I would love to add links to other people's workflows. Let me know if you have a `/meta` (or similar) page.
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aaronpk what is colophon?
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Loqi A colophon is a page or section, like a footer, of a site that describes how the site is made, with what tools, supporting what technologies https://indieweb.org/colophon
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mmmotion [Joao_Paulo_Pes]: wonderful website, very inspirational
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[Joao_Paulo_Pes] thanks [aaronpk], will rename mine!
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aaronpk you don't have to rename your URL! just add yourself to that page
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[Joao_Paulo_Pes] I like to keep the conventions 😬 and great to see all the other `colophon` pages, will make for a lovely reading
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[Joao_Paulo_Pes] thanks a lot @mmmotion! still building it very slowly
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[tantek] colophon++
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[tantek] is anyone using Nightshade? https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/10/23/1082189/data-poisoning-artists-fight-generative-ai/