#indieweb 2024-04-07

2024-04-07 UTC
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[Al_Abut] Ah, so I can keep using Mastodon as I do now and my blog will also occasionally chip to sprinkle in updates as well? I’ve been ok doing manual POSSE updates for that kind of thing but getting a useful dashboard of replies could be the tipping point to finally automating.
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[snarfed] [Al_Abut] no, Bridgy Fed doesn't integrate with any existing Mastodon account. it turns your web site into its own fediverse account
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[tantek] [Al_Abut] Bridgy Fed gives you a path to replacing and abandoning your existing Mastodon account. That's the point
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[tantek] One fewer place with stuff to keep track of
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[contact898] at one point I was using a service that turned your mentions into an RSS feed
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[contact898] I don't remember the name unfortunately
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[aciccarello] If you are using http://webmention.io you can do that. That's how I get notified about my mentions.
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[contact898] on mastodon?
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[contact898] do you put the link into your profile meta tags or something?
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[aciccarello] I use bridgy fed to make my website my main account and it forwards those mentions.
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[contact898] ah yeah
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[contact898] I've tried to do things but haven't really been able to make things work like I wish they did
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[contact898] I'll try again when I'm back from holidays
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capjamesg https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/apr/04/google-set-to-charge-for-internet-searches-with-ai-reports-say
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to2ds Pay for search? 😑
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sknebel Thats nice that they let you opt out of AI bullshit for free 😅
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[tantek] sknebel++ exactly what I was thinking 😂 also the gall to charge for AI hallucinations. Amazing
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Loqi sknebel has 5 karma in this channel over the last year (34 in all channels)
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to2ds The ozone should love all these multibillion dollar centers :)
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to2ds *data centers
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to2ds The Matrix has begun.
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[Al_Abut] The more things change… _“The browsing and search startup Arc offers its products free to users and says it intends to raise revenue in future by charging companies for business features.”_
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[Al_Abut] (i.e. my snarky way of saying they’ll be the first to die)
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[tantek] "business features" 🤔
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[KevinMarks] This is neat https://anhvn.com/posts/2024/making-version-noir/
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[Al_Abut] That’s beautiful. I love the Scott McCloud vibes on her home page, where the cartoon character breaks the 4th wall to talk to the viewer: https://anhvn.com/
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capjamesg 2023 but... https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/12/metas-new-ai-image-generator-was-trained-on-1-1-billion-instagram-and-facebook-photos/
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[tantek] yeah
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[tantek] might be a good to document as a reason to NOT POSSE to IG or FB
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[tantek] even manually obv
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capjamesg This is enough to make me wonder whether _posting_ there is a good idea.
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[tantek] indeed
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capjamesg Context: I'm reading https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/06/technology/tech-giants-harvest-data-artificial-intelligence.html
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capjamesg > OpenAI was desperate for more data to develop its next-generation A.I. model, GPT-4. So employees discussed transcribing podcasts, audiobooks and YouTube videos, the people said. They talked about creating data from scratch with A.I. systems. They also considered buying start-ups that had collected large amounts of digital data.
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capjamesg > Some Google employees were aware that OpenAI had harvested YouTube videos for data, two people with knowledge of the companies said. But they didn’t stop OpenAI because Google had also used transcripts of YouTube videos to train its A.I. models, the people said. That practice may have violated the copyrights of YouTube creators. So if Google made a fuss about OpenAI, there might be a public outcry against its own methods, the people sa
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capjamesg (I suggest reading the article in full. I created a free account on the NYT website to read it.)
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[tantek] wow
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capjamesg > Ahmad Al-Dahle, Meta’s vice president of generative A.I., told executives that his team had used almost every available English-language book, essay, poem and news article on the internet to develop a model, according to recordings of internal meetings, which were shared by an employee.
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capjamesg > OpenAI appeared to be taking copyrighted material and Meta could follow this “market precedent,” he added.
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "indiebookclub version 0.1.2 launched" https://indiebookclub.biz/updates#post-2024-04-07 (from https://gregorlove.com/2024/04/bookmarked-indiebookclub-version-012/)
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[tantek] gRegor++
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[snarfed] gRegor++ !d
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[Al_Abut] Why do these secret frenemy shenanigans between giant nation-states remind me of the underlying English-vs-Portuguese plot in Shogun…?
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[tantek] Was that meant for #indieweb-chat ?
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[Al_Abut] Yes 🤦‍♂️
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[Al_Abut] Oh wait, no! I’m in the right channel. It was meant as a reference to the illicit quiet war between google and openai over training on youtube transcripts but 1) was too indirect a reference and 2) for some reason my ipad didn’t post the comment too late.
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