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petermolnar Cara was started by former deviantart users, they don't even hide they want something deviantart was 20 years ago
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EnlGmA says, Hello, Bonjour, Salut, Hola, Zdravstvuyte, Nǐn hǎo, Salve, Konnichiwa, Guten Tag, Olá, Anyoung haseyo, Asalaam alaikum, Goddag, Shikamoo, Goedendag, Yassas, Dzień dobry, Selamat siang, Namaste, God dag, Merhaba, Shalom, God dag
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[KevinMarks] Did we have a page for 'just'? https://x.com/TylerAlterman/status/1798389150728765926
# [KevinMarks] What is just?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "just" yet. Would you like to create it?_ (Or just say "just is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[schmarty] we've even got a ready emoji :pinched_fingers::skin-tone-2: (sorta)
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] capjamesg https://tantek.com/2021/087/t3/basically-just-simply-obscure
# [schmarty] hahaha, indeed it is 😝
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capjamesg[d] I would love a wiki page on this.
# [KevinMarks] Dismissives?
# capjamesg[d] I like both those options.
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[aciccarello] I like [tantek]'s trivializer
# capjamesg[d] I saw that.
# [KevinMarks] Dismissives as they're missives that dis you
# capjamesg[d] My only reservation about trivializer is it will also need a British redirect.
# capjamesg[d] trivialiser and trivializer
# capjamesg[d] "dismissive" definition is "feeling or showing that something is unworthy of consideration."
# [aciccarello] Spelling--
# capjamesg[d] "trivialise" is "make (something) seem less important, significant, or complex than it really is."
# capjamesg[d] (Source: OED)
# capjamesg[d] (OED, via Google)
# capjamesg[d] I think trivialise is closer to what we're trying to convey.
# capjamesg[d] Than dismissives.
# [schmarty] (via the OED's website via Google? or via Google's AI answer??)
# [Joe_Crawford] kevinmarks++ for being damn funny
# capjamesg[d] [schmarty] AI isn't enabled in the UK I don't think.
# capjamesg[d] I'm going by the regular Oxford Languages definition box that's been around for years.
# [schmarty] 👍
# capjamesg[d] That's a good question to ask, but I wish we didn't need to ask it 😭
# capjamesg[d] "downplays"?
# capjamesg[d] You don't usually use downplay in plural, but it could work here.
# capjamesg[d] And it feels like a softer word.
# [KevinMarks] We should have lots of UK words for this. Put-downs? Snubs?
# capjamesg[d] "trivialise" implies more intent than "downplay" I think?
# [KevinMarks] It's a kind of weaponised self deprecation, which is very English.
# capjamesg[d] Because use of just is not necessarily on purpose -- I have certainly used "just" without thinking about it -- we don't want a word that feels like it blames someone for using the wrong word. That's why I said "implicitly downplaying"; you're (usually) not explicitly downplaying something (although people do, it usually requires a bigger mindset shift to realise why that's bad).
# [KevinMarks] In the UK we'd say something like "oh, I just made a website for it, no big deal" which is a way of sounding modest while boasting
# capjamesg[d] I think we definitely should have a wiki page on this, even if the page has a placeholder name that we change later.
# capjamesg[d] This is a resource I'd link to other technical writers; the list itself is incredibly valuable.
# capjamesg[d] We can even brainstorm names on the wiki 😉
# [KevinMarks] Minimising, undermining
# capjamesg[d] Minimising is good, except it takes a lot of attention to write on a whiteboard clearly 😄
# capjamesg[d] (that's not a serious objection haha)
# [KevinMarks] It's the webfinger cartoon again
# capjamesg[d] I was thinking more Tom Lehrer writing "minimum" https://youtu.be/zxFCQplZgKI?t=339. You can't see the handwriting in the recording, but the point was it was messy 😄
# [KevinMarks] Noddy words (very uk reference)
# capjamesg[d] Exactly haha.
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# capjamesg[d] I love this website: https://smallseasons.guide/
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# capjamesg[d] [Joe_Crawford]++ for hosting FESH.
# [KevinMarks] [Joe_Crawford]++
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# standingdesk Study Hall is excellent. Very much looking forward to the next.
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