#indieweb 2025-01-02
2025-01-02 UTC
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[tantek] ^ ok, posted about it https://tantek.com/2025/001/t2/first-new-year-review-prior
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "What comes after Web 2.0?" https://havenweb.org/2025/01/01/web2.html
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# [tantek] continuing the on topic of information about venues, recommendations thereof etc., one of the very useful features on various venue aggregation / query services whether Maps apps from Apple/Google or Foursquare was "show what is open now" or indirectly showing open vs closed vs "closing soon" information.
# [tantek] this information is often wrong in many interesting edge-cases. two in particular: 1. holidays and days adjacent to them, and 2. the last 1-3 hours before the "posted" closing time. I have many empirical data points of say Google Maps or Apple Maps or Foursquare being wrong about opening hours, both on holidays, and within an hour of closing time.
# [tantek] this (common) flaw in reporting of opening/closing times has indieweb-relevance in that I don't want to share inaccurate information if/when I'm posting about venues on my own site in particular (it's fine for Google or Apple or Foursquare to be wrong, because they are just "companies" and people expect companies to frequently make mistakes)
# [tantek] the difference is, people IMO typically assign more trust to individuals they know than they do to companies. thus if I'm going to recommend a venue, especially opening hours, I want to convey that information with whatever "fuzziness" is necessary to more accurately convey the possibility of the venue(s) being closed. curious what approaches folks have come up with, for conveying such information from their personal sites.
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[KevinMarks] I remind local places to update their hours in Google if there is some variation from usual. They often think that posting on FB or Instagram is enough to reach their customers.
# [KevinMarks] There isn't usually a good feedback loop for them to find out if people found them unexpectedly closed
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# Loqi Front End Study Hall #018 is starting soon! Join us! https://events.indieweb.org/jSXCx17D9a63
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "topic of the study hall" yet. Would you like to create it?_k (Or just say "topic of the study hall is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# [KevinMarks] bring your own front end questions, @btrem
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[Joe_Crawford] We've had some ideas for topics in mind, and keep them on the main Front End Study Hall page, but mostly we have not had predetermined topics, I intend them to be useful to whomever has chosen to participate. More conversation than pure Q&A. I hope that helps.
# [Joe_Crawford] I was deliberate about calling it a Study Hall in that I wanted an open-ended format. But I'm certainly open to whatever folks find useful.
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# [Joe_Crawford] But in terms of these events, my door is always open to suggestions and questions about them. https://artlung.com/fresh/ ... here in chat, the wiki, Mastodon, Bluesky, email, I'll get it eventually.
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# [tantek] in case folks are curious, the LastFM "Last.Year Report" is apparently public! e.g. mine is here https://www.last.fm/user/tantekc/listening-report/year
# [Joe_Crawford] And me. https://www.last.fm/user/artlung/listening-report/year
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# [tantek] [KevinMarks] that post you shared was quite indieweb (without saying it). Interest critiques of Mastodon too: https://chrisholdgraf.com/blog/2024/bluesky#why-not-use-mastodon