#indieweb 2025-03-01

2025-03-01 UTC
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Self-Expression - IndieWeb Carnival March 2025" https://lifeofpablo.com/blog/self-expression-indieweb-carnival-march-2025
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foo1 hi
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "“What’s Up Doc?” IndieWeb Movie Club" https://artlung.com/whatsupdoc-imc/
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osteophage Would anyone on here happen to know the origin of the term "walled garden"? Someone on 32-Bit Cafe was asking the other day. Wikipedia's entry on closed platform provides some examples but not an origin point.
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kimberlyhirsh Hi IndieWeb! Is there a good micropub client that will let you write in Markdown? I'm looking to include links in notes without having to type out the full HTML.
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[artlung] It looks like the Oxford English Dictionary has a great entry, but it is (irony!) walled off. I tried to use my San Diego Public Library account but (argghhh) it errors out. https://www.oed.com/dictionary/walled-garden_n - but the term is 400-ish years old. I think I recall people talking about AOL and before that CompuServe in the 1990s though. Pre-internet even.
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osteophage Oh wow. From the 1600s?!
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[artlung] But a journal search for "walled garden" and "aol" or "compuserve" maybe even "eworld" and "The Well" ought to find you digital examples at some point. What year? That I don't know.
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[artlung] And kimberlyhirsh, I don't know enough of micropub clients to comment sorry! I think this channel is fine for it but asking in the dev channel might also be worthwhile.
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jeremycherfas [artlung] Is that 16th century entry you found metaphorical?
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jeremycherfas Bexcause of course there were plenty of actual walled gardens at that time.
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[aciccarello] kimberlyhirsh, I don't know of any clients with their own markdown support, but I will often write raw markdown into a client since my server will render it.
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[tantek] AOL is the first metaphorical example of walled garden that I remember
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capjamesg[d] Interesting read: https://www.theverge.com/press-room/617654/internet-community-future-research
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capjamesg[d] [edit] Interesting read: https://www.theverge.com/press-room/617654/internet-community-future-research
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capjamesg[d] "Sixty percent of respondents view the state of social media negatively, expressing it feels like a place of never-ending product placements and makes them feel like a number in a giant algorithmic machine."
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aaronpk i remember the 2010-2012 wave of talking about how facebook is taking AOL's place as the new walled garden
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capjamesg[d] 44% of respondents said they want "more-human, less algorithm-dependent content"
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immibis a lot of people say they want a lot of things but when they are actually given the choice, make the opposite choice
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[Murray] sure, but people don't make decisions in a vacuum. I want less algorithm-dependent content, but I also want to see what my friends are up to, hear the news that I'm interested in, and find cool stuff that aligns with my interests. so I might be willing to deal with algorithmic timelines, if it delivers on the other areas
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[Murray] priorities shift around a lot
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[Murray] and communities are often the _primary_ driving force of decision making
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hacknorris is it good to DELETE a blog?
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hacknorris ?
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hacknorris ???
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hacknorris so i won't know how good idea is to remove this crap…
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[tantek] What is delete your account
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Loqi delete your account is an encouragement to delete your (silo) account, e.g https://indieweb.org/delete_your_account
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[tantek] Maybe some related thoughts there ^
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hacknorris not this. delete website. html files
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hacknorris it's crap anyway…
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hacknorris right now only 80% done by human…
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hacknorris if not less…
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hacknorris so should i delete this zombie?
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hacknorris ?
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[tw2113] if it has no value to you...
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hacknorris no, like, i feel it have no value for others…
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hacknorris (if anything generated have a value lol)
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[artlung] The world is a mess. I invite you to carve out a couple hours to watch “What’s Up Doc?” this month. It’ll be fun. Once you do, post about it! https://artlung.com/whatsupdoc-imc/
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Loqi [preview] [Joe Crawford] “What’s Up Doc?” IndieWeb Movie Club
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capjamesg[d] [artlung]++
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Loqi [artlung] has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (7 in all channels)
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capjamesg[d] I am excited to re-watch the movie!
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[artlung] Always a cure for what ails me. :) Thanks James!
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