#indieweb 2025-03-02

2025-03-02 UTC
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jasperad0501 hello, indieweb!! i am jasper and i’m fairly new to coding, only having some experience with html and css! i discovered this through some searching and curiosity while making my own personal site! ^^
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jasperad0501 i don’t really own any domains or anything like that, but i used to have a neocities site and now own a glitch site!
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osteophage Hi Jasper! What's your website?
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jasperad0501 i’m gonna share it once i fix some issues with the music player on it!
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osteophage Oh, neat. Lately I've been thinking about making some pages with Bandcamp embeds on them.
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jasperad0501 osteophage[d]: ooo, that’s awesome!
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jasperad0501 yeah, the mp3 files on my website stopped working for some reason
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jasperad0501 [edit] the mp3 files on my website stopped working for some reason
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osteophage Does Glitch do audio hosting? Or are they hosted somewhere else?
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osteophage My own site is on Neocities, which if I recall correctly doesn't accept mp3s at the free tier, which is a problem I ran into when creating my Haunted Woods page.
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jasperad0501 osteophage[d]: it’s hosted elsewhere!
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jasperad0501 figured out the issue, the host links broke so i used a different host
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osteophage Aha. A classic culprit.
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jasperad0501 alrighty!
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jasperad0501 https://jasperad.glitch.me
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jasperad0501 [edit] https://jasperad.glitch.me
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jasperad0501 I’m willing to accept critique!
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jasperad0501 [edit] i’m willing to accept critique!
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osteophage Oh man, Flyleaf. That's a blast from the past.
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jasperad0501 i love flyleaf! i thought i’d do a digital cd collection because i got bored and wanted to make my site unique
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osteophage Just so you know, if you make your links page into a bookmarks page, you can get listed at Bukmark Club: https://bukmark.club/
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osteophage [edit] Just so you know, if you make your links page into a bookmarks page, you can get listed at Bukmark Club: https://bukmark.club/
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jasperad0501 i was just looking at that, funnily enough!
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semii2179 jasper[d]: i love the cd collection and it looks good on mobile
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jasperad0501 semii2179[d]: THANK YOU
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jasperad0501 it took me 2 hours lol
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semii2179 jasper[d]: that a good turn around time
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jasperad0501 semii2179[d]: yeah!! it’s honestly my proudest thing from the website!!
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hacknorris i still don't know if ii should continue with a zombie site or delete that…
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[tantek] What is a zombie?
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Loqi 🧟‍♀️🧟‍♂️ A zombie in the context of the web is a website that has died or been lost, perhaps due to domain registration neglect, and has been brought back online in a form resembling what it look like before, yet oddly broken, often with spam pages/links added, and sometimes eats a lot of CPU likely due to abusive scripts https://indieweb.org/zombie
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[tantek] hacknorris is that what you meant or did you mean something else?
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[tantek] FYI for folks that use Google / Gmail based email / logins for things like GitHub etc which may impact using your domain for web sign-in etc: https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2025/03/02/google-will-delete-my-gmail-and-photos-on-april-3-how-to-save-yours/
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[tantek] (Also if you were using Google Photos as photo storage for your photo posts)
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hacknorris [tantek] not exactly but i feel like it's just quite dead website, last post fully finished is from last year and for worse recently i try to add some things to it while using gen*i tools…
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hacknorris so like… idk if should keep it…
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[tantek] I think in general folks here tend to discourage use of genAI for content on your own site, while being at least tolerant of using genAI to help with coding. Ok to have different opinions on that too!
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hacknorris yup
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hacknorris (actually ai is the main reason of thinking about deleting my site)
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[tantek] Either way, folks like to encourage disclosure one way or another. There are a few folks who have buttons and such for "made by a human" etc
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[tantek] Ultimately if it's not bringing you joy, you should do what feels best for you personally as it is YOUR personal site
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hacknorris right now i doubt it's mine as i started using *i…
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[tantek] Certainly if you feel it doesn't represent you that's a good reason for a reset
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hacknorris but like how else in these times i could manage a static site in a place without backend? when i need to make html files manually and statically? right now everything is an iframe at me. like 30 files minimum + projects and games sections where are htmls too…
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[tantek] Depending on your focus, if you want to dig into plumbing optimizations, probably better for #indieweb-dev
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hacknorris i'm bad at coding too. i barely passed tests at uni from cpp…
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hacknorris (cpp and js is quite similar tbh…)
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[tantek] Or another approach is to ask what high level problems are you trying to solve for yourself with your personal site, and then only worry about aspects related to those
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hacknorris repetitive code to not use JS where not everybody enables JS…
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hacknorris sometimes in optional scripted parts in js too - specially variables as i tend to make many of then
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hacknorris too much code generally
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hacknorris and i wouldn't bother other human to do such things for free for me (no money problem)…
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hacknorris additionally - vscode fits me as in kate/vim/ etc…i'd need to install LSPs and in vscode i already have it…'
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[tantek] ^ the js vs not js and LSP and vscode topics are better for #indieweb-dev, maybe continue there?
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hacknorris and i just wanted to know if i should delete a site after i abandoned it and crappified…
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hacknorris :/
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jasperad0501 what is a microformat
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Loqi microformats are extensions to HTML for marking up notes, people, organizations, events, locations, blog posts, products, reviews, resumés, recipes etc https://indieweb.org/microformat
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jasperad0501 THANK YOU
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[tantek] Sounds like it's causing you enough distress that yes is a good answer hacknorris. Back up your data so you can do other things with it later if you want, then delete and don't look back
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hacknorris cause whoever'd care about a generated crap???
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hacknorris like either g**gle crap ( .blogspot ) or l*m locally but others won't get google
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capjamesg[d] Does anyone follow any RSS feeds that post daily updates (like the Wikipedia article of the day, NASA photo of the day, Blog of the day)?
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capjamesg[d] If so, I would love to know the feed! I'm building a feature for my web reader and would love to see more examples of feeds like this.
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capjamesg[d] Of note, authors that post daily are not related. I'm more focused on automated daily feeds / daily updates (i.e. daily newsletters with web feeds).
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hacknorris wikipedia only… + my crapyy "blog"
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jasperad0501 i really need to learn how to make an rss feed for my 11ty blog lol
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Loqi hey capjamesg[d] jasperad0501: we try to keep dev talk (RSS) out of this channel, can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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hacknorris it's offtopic channel??
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capjamesg[d] jasper[d] I'll share some guidance!
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jasperad0501 thank you!
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[tantek] What is discuss?
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Loqi 💬 Join #indieweb discussions via Discord, Slack, web chat, or IRC, (they are all bridged!) with focused channels for developers, WordPress, and meta topics! https://indieweb.org/Discuss
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[tantek] hacknorris see ^ for what topics work best in which channels
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capjamesg[d] In other news, I enjoyed reading https://werd.io/2025/the-web-was-always-about-redistribution-of-power-lets-bring today!
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Loqi [preview] [Ben Werdmuller] The web was always about redistribution of power. Let's bring that back.
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jasperad0501 that’s an interesting read
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Toxicogenic i didn't realize this was bridged with a discord channel, i thought this was irc only tbh
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[tantek] weclome Toxicogenic! do you have a personal site?
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Toxicogenic not as of yet lol, it's something i have on the backburner rn
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jasperad0501 welcome!!
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Toxicogenic but i have been interested in the indie web for a few years, so it's something i will do eventually
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[tantek] great! feel free to lurk or if/when you do get curious about setting up your own personal site, take a look at:
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[tantek] what is get started?
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Loqi 🎉 Get started on the indieweb by connecting with the IndieWeb community, getting a personal domain, a place for your content, and setting up your home page and other IndieWeb essentials https://indieweb.org/Get_Started
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Toxicogenic thanks!
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capjamesg[d] Welcome to the community!
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gregsarjeant Submitted my piece for the March IndieWeb Carnival on Self-Expression! https://subcultureofone.org/2025/03/02/another-time/
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gregsarjeant Plenty of March left for submissions. https://lifeofpablo.com/blog/self-expression-indieweb-carnival-march-2025
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