#indieweb 2026-02-12
2026-02-12 UTC
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[morgan] Hey I really appreciated the HWC call today, thanks all for good input
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[tantek] TikTok << increased surveillance in the US after transfer of US based operations to companies connected to current US administration: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20260210-tiktok-is-tracking-you-even-if-you-dont-use-the-app-heres-how-to-stop-it
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Loqi ok, I added "increased surveillance in the US after transfer of US based operations to companies connected to current US administration: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20260210-tiktok-is-tracking-you-even-if-you-dont-use-the-app-heres-how-to-stop-it" to the "See Also" section of /TikTok https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=108483&oldid=108092
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# bubbybumble [tantek]: that stupid ring doorbell ad in the superbowl is another case of this...
# bubbybumble or was that mentioned in the call, sorry I didn't see it was happening
# rgbivvv I didn't even watch
# Kupietz Interest stuff in that Tiktok article. The link to DuckDuckGo's browser extension comparison toble is interesting also, although it seems kind of like marketing. I myself use uBlock Origin and in fact just installed Ghostery, which I used to use a long time ago and forgot about. Plus I use a vpn by default, although a small minority of sites block it completely. I use split tunneling for just those sites though. And I avoid mobile apps for sites
# Kupietz that are accessible via browser, by and large.
# Loqi ok, I added "https://bsky.app/profile/katemckean.bsky.social/post/3memb4hybpk2u" to the "See Also" section of /ai;dr https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=108484&oldid=91752
# Loqi ok, I added "https://www.threads.com/@dave_minnigerode/post/DUl_pzkEvKu" to the "See Also" section of /ai;dr https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=108485&oldid=108484
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# Loqi ok, I added "https://www.threads.com/@kt_dubya/post/DUooSpwkvok" to the "See Also" section of /ai;dr https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=108486&oldid=108485
# bubbybumble [tantek]: Just give the ring doorbell one a quick search and you'll see what I mean.... Basically advertising a feature where "if your dog is lost, upload it's face and ai will scan all ring doorbell to find its location"
# bubbybumble Seems like people here are European more? I didn't see the ad anyway either but people called it out online real quick since it's so obviously spying on people
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# dashing.msi3184 oof that's scary
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capjamesg [tantek]++ for https://tantek.com/2010/281/b1/what-is-the-open-web
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[KevinMarks] People are returning their ring cameras https://www.bgr.com/2098762/ring-camera-return-how-much-they-get/
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mahboubine Do people have to have their cameras on in events?
# mahboubine I mean during the event itself, I know people can turn off the camera when taking the photo
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: https://blog.rickardlindberg.me/2026/02/12/205305.html
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NegateThis Testing for chat name, please ignore
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deathcomestotime but if your name is "negate this" shouldnt we assume you mean the opposite of everything you say
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# NegateThis Perhaps, but every concept contains its negation, and every negation contains its original. So negating my concept doesn't necessarily imply doing the opposite of what I mean :P
# [morgan] Dialectical materialism enters the chat :D
# [morgan] NegateThis++
# NegateThis Thanks! Let's do the channel a favor and not steer into philosophical "jargon", though.
# [morgan] I can agree it's random but I sort of disagree it's jargon though, it's how I happen to see the world mostly. Jargon is like acronyms and specific language within a domain. Having said, I can look to #indieweb-random
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# NegateThis I don't believe it's jargon either, hence the quotation marks. I generally don't like describing philosophical concepts as jargon because that term tends to be used to dismiss philosophy as a whole. I just say jargon in reference to Loqi's message about whenever non-beginner-friendly terms get used here
# [morgan] Right on. I believe loqi is trained mostly on technical jargon and acronyms like coding terms. But philosophy might need anchoring in personal website content to be good to discuss here you are right 👍
# [morgan] What is philosophy
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "philosophy" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "philosophy is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# NegateThis You're killing me, Loqi
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# [morgan] What is Indieweb principles
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Indieweb principles" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Indieweb principles is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [morgan] Hmm it already exists just at https://indieweb.org/principles anyways just having fun and poking around. Lots of philosophy involved in this document
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# [tantek]3 meyerweb++ EricMeyer++
# [tantek]3 deserves the karma regardless IMO
# [tantek]3 indeed. figured I'd start with both his common "handles" and let folks here self-select
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# fnhipster greeting from fnhipster.com! What's new?
# bubbybumble fnhipster: dude is this your face being live streamed to ascii on that page?!
# fnhipster Yup!
# bubbybumble immaculate site
# fnhipster Wanna watch the Bad Bunny Halftime Show in ASCII stream? I can make that happen for you ;)
# bubbybumble haha that's ok, I went on youtube and watched it (missed it at the party I was at!)
# fnhipster good stuff
# NegateThis fnhipster: Whoa can you give the camera a peace sign?
# NegateThis SICK
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# addam89 Hey I'm a noob with Indie web, and web dev in general 👋 I'm wondering what's the general consensus around using Javascript? I'm making a portfolio as a UX designer and animator, and it seems like I need Javascript here and there to get some nice interaction feedback. Maybe I'm wrong. But it seems like I'll need compromise here and there when my field of work is largely visual
# [tantek]3 welcome addam89++
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# [tantek]3 for Javascript discussions you may find the #indieweb-dev channel more helpful
# [tantek]3 and there we go, Loqi is nudging us there 😄
# addam89 Ah my bad, thanks!
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# addam89 Is 1 karma over a year bad? 😂 Never been a big user of Discord
# deathcomestotime fnhipster this is cool
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# fnhipster deathcomestotime thanks!
# fnhipster time for me to sign out! see ya!
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