#dev 2016-07-07

2016-07-07 UTC
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aaronparecki.com edited /User:Aaronparecki.com (+1141) "add more articles" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /User:Aaronparecki.com (+119) "/* figured out */" (view diff)
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GWG I missed the rest of the status discussion
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GWG Darn
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2016-07-13-homebrew-website-club (+93) "/* Bellingham, WA */ indie event" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2016-06-15-homebrew-website-club (+93) "/* Bellingham, WA */ indie event" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2016-06-29-homebrew-website-club (+95) "/* Bellingham, WA */ indie event" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Hm, all the wiki edits in the log appear to be from Loqi
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Loqi who, me?
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gRegorLove nvm, see there's already a github issue https://github.com/indieweb/chat.indieweb.org/issues/3
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aaronpk oh yeah that's a bug on the new logs
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aaronpk i apparently forgot to copy that regex in
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aaronpk please let me know if anything weird is happening with Loqi. I just launched some changes.
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Loqi who, me?
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aaronpk :)
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jkphl.is edited /events/2016-06-08-homebrew-website-club (+211) "/* Photos */" (view diff)
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snarfed hey GWG! so, i know you want syndication in the wp micropub plugin so you can use it in your normal workflow
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snarfed ...but out of curiosity, have you tried the plugin as is on a local wp? or on your tiny.n9n.us test site?
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snarfed or even on your prod site, and then just POSSEd manually?
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snarfed if you want to keep working on the plugin, i really think it'd be valuable to get you using it asap, immediately, even if it doesn't yet handle your entire current workflow (eg POSSE) yet
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GWG snarfed, in all cases.
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GWG I have tried it in both places
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snarfed ah, great! glad to hear it! thanks
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GWG How much more before you would push 0.5 to WordPress.org?
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snarfed so, it worked fine in both places? with multiple clients? other than missing syndication?
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GWG Yes, for create
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snarfed ok!
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GWG I have some slug issues, but not related.
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snarfed definitely try the other modes too, beyond create!
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GWG snarfed, they are deprecated
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snarfed re 0.5, i don't know. we haven't added any actual functionality since 0.4, so i don't really see a reason yet
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snarfed by deprecated, do you mean the current spec changed how eg update/delete work?
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GWG I usually use stable on my site, but I'll install the development version.
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GWG snarfed, correct
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snarfed so no existing micropub clients use the old style update/delete?
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GWG It is buggy
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snarfed regardless, no matter. glad to hear you've tested create with a few clients!
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snarfed GWG: so the diff in https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub/pull/30 is pretty hard to read. is it all just moving code and changing/adding function names? no meaningful new or changed code?
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snarfed ok, looks like yes
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GWG snarfed, correct.
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GWG snarfed, for edit, fixing it when it is set to be rewritten...
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GWG snarfed, just to separate things before I add functionality.
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snarfed yeah. commenting on the PR
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snarfed oh GWG btw, have you run phpcs? how does it look?
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GWG snarfed, bad.
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snarfed doh
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GWG Around 400+ issues
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GWG But all style
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snarfed yeah. low priority.
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snarfed i'd like to start running it on circle.
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snarfed i'll file an issue for both
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GWG I figured I might do a PR for those, but it won't add functionality.
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snarfed very low priority
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GWG But if you add it before we fix it, then all checks will fail.
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GWG Will address the PR tonight
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snarfed GWG: oh no, it wouldn't fail the build, it'd just be informative
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snarfed at least for now
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petermolnar gosh, I got my virtual machines upgraded to debian 8 without systemd
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petermolnar also cutting down everything that was there, for the what ifs
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petermolnar I never looked at nginx|php|whatever stats, so dropping collecting it
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aaronpk like the raw logs from those?
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petermolnar nah, things collected via collectd
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aaronpk oh does it do that automatically?
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petermolnar I added some kind of collector for it
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petermolnar but I really won't be looking at it; the days when my server broke any sweat over a few wordpress instances are long gone
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bear it's a collectd plugin for nginx
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bear https://collectd.org/wiki/index.php/Plugin:nginx
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petermolnar yep, I just checked and wanted to type
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petermolnar it was the php-fpm I had to write some json magic for
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petermolnar and it also looks like I managed to register petermolnar.bit via namecoind
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petermolnar bought ltc with eur, turned out I can't buy nmc with ltc, so bought btc with ltc, then bought nmc with btc, the send to wallet, then initiate domain reg, then finalize domain reg
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petermolnar so much easier than registering one via a registrar, right?
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bear laughs
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aaronpk wat
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petermolnar I don't do mining and I didn't have btc
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petermolnar I got into the game to late :)
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petermolnar so I wanted to buy namecoin with eur
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petermolnar so
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petermolnar I transferred 8 eur to cryptonite
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petermolnar there it turned out I can't directly buy nmc with eur
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petermolnar so I bought litecoin
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petermolnar turned out I can't buy namecoin with ltc
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petermolnar so I bought bitcoin with ltc
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petermolnar then I bought namecoin with btc
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petermolnar then I sent it to my local wallet when my namecoind is available
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petermolnar there you initiate the domain request
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petermolnar wait 12 blocks
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petermolnar then you finalize the request
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petermolnar ta-dam!
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petermolnar .bit
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petermolnar it's a lot easier if you already have namecoin
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aaronpk this all sounds like things i dont want to ever do
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petermolnar oh, and setting up a nameserver with a record meanwhile
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petermolnar but in theory I do actually own the domain
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petermolnar for 36k blocks
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petermolnar which sucks
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petermolnar apparently there is no way to really own a domain
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petermolnar as in own like a house, a car, or a book
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aaronpk for 36k blocks? what does that mean?
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aaronpk well you could argue you don't really own a house either, cause you still have to pay property tax and such
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petermolnar true
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aaronpk but you at least own the structure, as long as you don't have a mortgage :)
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aaronpk is the 36k block thing like a way to time-limit your registration of the .bit domain?
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petermolnar it is
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petermolnar it's not a fix timeframe
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petermolnar it lasts till 36k blocks are mined
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aaronpk so what problem does .bit solve then?
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petermolnar no registrar
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petermolnar but not much else
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petermolnar that is why I wanted to try it out
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aaronpk because the blockchain is the registrar?
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petermolnar indeed
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aaronpk but that has its own governance process, right?
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petermolnar that is a tough question
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petermolnar on a level, it does, on other levels, it doesn't
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petermolnar so the system as a whole can be taken down, yes
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petermolnar but you can't take down individual domains easily
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aaronpk so *that* is the problem it solves, not just that there is "no registrar"
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aaronpk it sounds like it's a technical solution to make the registrar unable to delete a domain
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petermolnar it is
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bear except for the gateways where the blockchain registrars interface to the rest of the world
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petermolnar so in short, it doesn't solve anything
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aaronparecki.com edited /sleep (+71) (view diff)
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loqi.me created /relative_dates (+145) "prompted by KevinMarks and dfn added by KevinMarks" (view diff)
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kevinmarks.com edited /relative_dates (+1335) "examples, brainstorming" (view diff)
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