#dev 2016-07-08

2016-07-08 UTC
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tantek hey do we have conventions (design, markup, etc.) for embedding others posts as *part* of a longer post?
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tantek like we have /repost and /quotation but those are whole singular things
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tantek I mean like the way people embed a tweet to make or add to a specific point as part of a longer blog post /article
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tantek searches for embedding and finds http://indieweb.org/quoting
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tantek so apparently I captured the need for figuring this out
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tantek but no answer. does anyone have experience with this? either with quoting/embedding others' indie posts, or having their own quoted/embedded as part of a larger article
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tantek ?
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tantek otherwise I'm just going to start copying markup and experimenting :)
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KevinMarks_ Link followed by block quote?
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KevinMarks_ Didn't aaronpk do something with that?
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KevinMarks_ What is collection?
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Loqi A collection is a type of post that explicitly lists and/or embeds multiple other posts chosen by the author https://indieweb.org/collection
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@nodenpm node-webmention-testendpoint (1.0.0): https://www.npmjs.com/package/node-webmention-testendpoint A tool to test your webmention clients (twitter.com/_/status/751309874621997057)
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tantek !tell aaronpk looks like /this-week needs some help https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-07-08.html
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek.com edited /2016/newskin (+20) "/* See Also */ 2016/homepage" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2016/homepage (+140) "add Previously section, home page before Summit" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2016-06-04-iwc-wiki-home.png]]""
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cweiske.de edited /site-deaths (+273) "/* 2015 */ google moderator" (view diff)
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@Inkwater_Masha Tips & tools that can help you with your book promotion http://www.digitalpubbing.com/indie-authors-book-promotion-tools-and-tips/?platform=hootsuite #bookmarketing #indieauth (twitter.com/_/status/751411864958009344)
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aaronpk oops! i'm guessing my scripts don't follow redireects
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message 7 hours, 22 minutes ago: looks like /this-week needs some help https://indieweb.org/this-week/2016-07-08.html
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aaronparecki.com edited /events/2016-07-13-homebrew-website-club (+23) "add pdx" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /business-brainstorming (+159) "prompted by GWG and dfn added by GWG" (view diff)
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aaronpk ugh why doesn't json_encode work with "«"
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tantek too soon to say LOLJSON?
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aaronpk weird, it works here https://repl.it/CaDY
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tantek.com edited /2016/homepage (+293) "/* Previously */ home page launched at summit" (view diff)
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aaronpk oh that's php 7
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tantek wow
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tantek is falling behind on documenting homepage major changes compared to how fast the homepage is changing
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tantek aaronpk: is the homepage design relatively stable now?
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aaronpk i don't have any huge plans for it now
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tantek did we resolve all yuck/ugly/offensive issues?
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aaronpk oh the link text on the color blocks needs changing
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aaronpk s/text/color
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tantek checks https://github.com/indieweb/wiki/issues
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aaronpk i think that is the only actual problem right now
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tantek is that captured somewhere?
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aaronpk i still would like one color block that's way more saturated, but i haven't figured out the best way to do that without causing other problems
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tantek sounds like something to capture as a "nice to have" issue and then procrastinate it until someone thinks of something
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aaronpk so i'm happy to put that off until we do other changes, like https://github.com/indieweb/wiki/issues/29
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tantek yeah, that too can happen later incrementally
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tantek as opposed to urgent "july 4th launch" issues
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aaronpk yeah
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aaronpk 😭 https://chat.indieweb.org/2016-07-08/1467997168005000
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tantek not found ?
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tantek wat
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aaronpk wait what
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aaronpk not found?
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tantek haha the emoji on that line caused the Colloquy autolinker to leave off the last 0
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Loqi nice
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aaronpk whoa
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tantek wait now I'm seeing nothing for that page
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aaronpk refresh
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tantek I bet colloquy is using some non-Unicode aware auto-linker :P
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aaronpk what am i doing wrong �
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aaronpk uh... https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2016-07-08/1467999124907000
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tantek I � Unicode
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tantek (yes there are t-shirts)
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aaronpk why does it work there
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tantek lololol
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aaronpk ««««««
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tantek FWIW I saw an error from my IRC client also
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aaronpk from cmal's line?
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tantek yes
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aaronpk weird!
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aaronpk so maybe it's not my fault
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aaronpk at least now the logs don't crash on those chars
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tantek cmal: « Google will probably sooner or later derank non-mf2 websites » said noone ever (incompatible encoding)
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tantek where "(incompatible encoding)" showed up in grey text after the statement
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aaronpk okay i will ignore that then, now that the logs don't crash
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tantek ok closed https://github.com/indieweb/wiki/issues/31 per "LGTM"
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tantek https://github.com/indieweb/wiki/issues/31#issuecomment-231425585
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aaronpk 👍
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loqi.me created /expires_header (+136) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by GWG" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk, it looks like Loqi does not s/something/somethingelse anymore?
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aaronpk hmm i must have accidentally commented that out while switching things around
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tantek hehe
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aaronpk s/accidentally/inadvertently
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Loqi aaronpk meant to say: hmm i must have inadvertently commented that out while switching things around
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tantek yay
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Loqi 😄
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tantek thanks aaronpk
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tantek.com edited /iCloud (+652) "add iOS photo and backup references" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /discuss (+233) "/* Chat */ first attempt at summary indieweb vs indieweb-dev descriptions / encouraged focus" (view diff)
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snarfed hey aaronpk just fyi granary fetches of https://aaronparecki.com/articles and /notes (for your proxied atom feeds) are taking >60s and timing out
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snarfed not sure why, those urls are fine for me locally. maybe app engine's IPs or something
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tantek.com edited /iCloud (+295) "criticism / Your iCloud storage is almost full" (view diff)
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aaronpk snarfed: weird, thanks. it's the actual fetch that's taking a long time?
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snarfed yup. looks like hanging
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snarfed finding an example IP
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aaronpk bizarre
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snarfed aaronpk: example app engine client IP: 107.178.195.216
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aaronpk some of the requests look like they're not taking long
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snarfed yeah i highly doubt it's your server taking that long, since it serves the pages fine to me locally
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snarfed anyway. just fyi, your granary atom feeds are broken due to this right now :/
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aaronpk that's super weird
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aaronpk this loads for me fine, i tried a couple times https://granary-demo.appspot.com/url?input=html&output=atom&url=https%3A%2F%2Faaronparecki.com%2Farticles
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snarfed unless something in the path is blocking or throttling google or app engine specifically
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snarfed huh, ok
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snarfed looking
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aaronpk i see the request in my logs immediately, then the page takes about 5-6 seconds before it loads in my browser
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snarfed you're right, it's not all of them, just occasionally
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aaronpk curiouser and curiouser
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snarfed i'll find some timestamps
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snarfed 12:10:10, 10:05:28, 9:34:35, 9:28:25 (all today pst)
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aaronparecki.com edited /events/2016-07-06-homebrew-website-club (+120) "/* Photos */ add photo" (view diff)
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aaronpk i should add the response time to my nginx logs
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Loqi I agree
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aaronparecki.com edited /events/2016-07-06-homebrew-website-club (+49) "/* Blog posts */" (view diff)
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@NelioSoft_ES Entiende mejor el sistema de trackbacks y pingbacks de #WordPress https://neliosoftware.com/es/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-y-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/751518963532697600)
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aaronparecki.com edited /rename_to_IndieWeb (+760) "add summary of changes that took place" (view diff)
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aaronpk wat
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aaronpk weird
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loqi.me edited /Dark_Matter (+27) "[shaners] added "http://darkmatterapp.com" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /Loqi (+177) "add new syntax "X << foo"" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /Loqi (-26) "h-entry support" (view diff)
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