#dev 2016-08-04

2016-08-04 UTC
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GWG gRegorLove: Can you elaborate on Page Admin Area?
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tantek what's the best way to make big photo JPEG (like 7MB) smaller (like 1MB) ?
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tantek going to just try saving as a JPEG with lower quality since I have no idea how to properly fiddle with resolution / dimension settings
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KevinMarks_ In code? Or in an app?
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KevinMarks_ Mac preview gives a decent amount of control over resizing and compressing
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KevinMarks_ If it's 7mb it is likely a huge number of pixels
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tantek kevinmarks yes it's too much control
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tantek I just want "make it smaller for the web"
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tantek don't make me play the "guess what knobs to turn to what values to get the side effect you want" game
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KevinMarks_ Well, resize first. It's probably a few thousand pixels in each direction
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tantek why doesn't compression just solve that for me?
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KevinMarks_ Because jpeg is old and dumb, but jpeg 2000 isn't fully supported yet because patents
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KevinMarks_ Jpeg works on 16 by 16 tiles
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KevinMarks_ So reducing the number of those is the quickest way to shrink the file
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gRegorLove GWG: Pages > All Pages. It's just obnoxious when you have > 25 pages.
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gRegorLove It'd be nice to browse by page hierarchy, expand/collapse sections, better search (or at least search by URL slug)
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KevinMarks_ I think iPhoto had "export for web" but it was an old school idea of the web
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gRegorLove GWG: Mostly looking for whether you had experience with a plugin that improves it.
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tantek let's see what the Layout iOS app does to the resolution
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KevinMarks_ You could do it in canvas
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KevinMarks_ Or upload it to instagram, that will pick an arbitrary web friendly size
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tantek yes that latter is what I do
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KevinMarks_ This was a frustrating thing with known. Raw photos on the phone were big enough to crash the browser
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tantek on Android I presume
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GWG gRegorLove: Haven't looked recently. But I agree with you, could be better.
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tantek on iPod Touch they're still small enough by default to be fine to e.g. upload to the wiki
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KevinMarks_ On my phone screenshots are gigantic too
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tantek forgets what that photo editing/resizing web API was supposed to be
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KevinMarks_ http://tympanus.net/codrops/2014/10/30/resizing-cropping-images-canvas/
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KevinMarks_ Though the actual user answer is to zoom in on the photo app and screenshot it.
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tantek doesn't that bloat the size because screenshot = png?
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KevinMarks_ Mitigated by screen pixels < camera pixels, usually
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tantek but then you post a low quality photo that looks bad on desktop right?
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KevinMarks_ Oh yes, you end up with shitpics, but it's the affordance people have found
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tantek no I refuse to do that
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KevinMarks_ I don't know what the iOS answer is, as my iPod got stolen with my laptop
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KevinMarks_ The sad part is that jpeg 2000 does solve this, but we'll have to wait until 2020 for the patents to expire
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KevinMarks_ I wonder if you did a jpeg 2000 srcset with a small fallback if it would work, or would browsers that don't support jpeg2000 download it before failing?
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tantek what is JPEG 2000?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "JPEG 2000" yet. Would you like to create it?
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cweiske aaronpk, you here?
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cweiske !tell aaronpk - http://indieweb.org/authorization-endpoint#Request says about the "scope" parameter that it's a comma separated list, while quill says 'scope: post (should be a space-separated list of permissions including "post").' what is correct? space or comma-separated?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@Inkwater_Masha This is still one of the coolest #bookmarketing things out there—3D MagicBox Interactive PDFs http://inkwater.com/magicbox-interactive-pdf/?platform=hootsuite #indieauth #selfpub (twitter.com/_/status/761190089422696448)
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another.ink edited /events/2016-08-06-homebrew-website-club-sprint (-30) "/* Where */" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /static_sites (+64) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /static-site (+47) "KevinMarks added "https://speakerdeck.com/feministy/in-defense" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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kevinmarks.com edited /static-site (+16) "/* See Also */ fix link" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk remind me which Twitter / superfeedr search terms make tweets etc. show up here?
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GWG Good morrow all
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aaronpk on twitter it's the specs, webmention, indieauth, etc
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Loqi aaronpk: cweiske left you a message 11 hours, 53 minutes ago: - http://indieweb.org/authorization-endpoint#Request says about the "scope" parameter that it's a comma separated list, while quill says 'scope: post (should be a space-separated list of permissions including "post").' what is correct? space or comma-separated?
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aaronpk i don't think i have a superfeedr search going here yet. just "indieweb" in the main channel
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aaronpk oh dear. more comma vs space nonsense
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aaronpk i wish oauth2 hadn't changed their mind half way through the spec
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tantek aaronpk: what about webmention
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aaronpk i should add some more superfeedr terms but it'll take a bit of work cause i have to either set up a new tracker (and pay another $2/mo) or split out the matches from a single tracker
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Loqi yea
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tantek aaronpk, maybe you can ask julien if he'll comp a new tracker for indieweb ;)
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tantek perhaps include pubsubhubbub in the terms :D
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aaronpk hehe
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bear if I have a friend that knows some php and js and wants to write their first CRUD app, what PHP framework would you suggest (my personal suggestion would be Django but that also isn't PHP, just a very beginner friendly web framework)
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aaronpk I like Laravel, it's pretty full featured
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tantek wow, "first CRUD app" sounds quite scary without a particular UI/UX in mind
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bear I didn't want to scare this first time coder away from learning something new by going into all that Tantek :)
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tantek CRUD? Why not CDURU?
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aaronpk OTOH learning that coding is not necessarily always the first step isn't bad
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tantek !meme CRUD? Why not CDURU?
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4ic8zRHn.jpg
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tantek wrong meme Loqi
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bear :)
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bear CRUD is my term that I inserted so that my question to you all would have the proper context
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bear all they want is a way to handle some form processing internal to their org
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tantek gives Loqi high expectations
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loqi.me edited /code-of-conduct (+153) "bear added "https://philsturgeon.uk/2016/07/23/talking-about-diversity-marginalization/ and https://philsturgeon.uk/2016/08/02/talking-about-diversity-conspiracy/" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /code-of-conduct-why (+153) "bear added "https://philsturgeon.uk/2016/07/23/talking-about-diversity-marginalization/ and https://philsturgeon.uk/2016/08/02/talking-about-diversity-conspiracy/" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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bear.im edited /code-of-conduct (-153) "moved see-also to code-of-conduct-why" (view diff)
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