#dev 2016-10-04

2016-10-04 UTC
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sknebel but that reminds me: do people post drafts via micropub? if yes, how do they deal with that?
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aaronpk I want to be able to do that, but haven't figured out a workflow yet
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sknebel mp-published=false ? (would have been my first intuition)
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aaronpk wordpress has that published state dropdown right?
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aaronpk what do they call it and what are the values?
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sknebel what is draft?
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Loqi A draft in the context of the indieweb refers to a draft post, a post that an author has partially written, or otherwise does not consider finished https://indieweb.org/draft
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sknebel says that the api has status - sets the post status ("draft" or "publish"), default is "draft"
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aaronpk aha
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aaronpk oh you know what, i already went through this exercise
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aaronpk i forgot i added published status to my site
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aaronpk haven't tied it in to micropub yet tho
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sknebel so you don't think that's something the micropub spec should cover explicitly?
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sknebel or just not thought about that part enough?
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aaronpk it probably should, but haven't thought that far through it yet. i also would rather try something out before writing it into the spec.
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KartikPrabhu doesn't mp-published conflict (at least in part name) with the mf2 published ?
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KartikPrabhu why not mp-draft = true, that way by default it could be assumed to be false
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aaronpk i was leaning more towards just "status" rather than "draft" or "published" being true or false
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aaronpk since that's how wordpress does it
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tantek did atompub have any prior art there? or metaweblog api?
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bear metaweblog api has a post-type_status field: draft, private, publish or pending
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bear atompub I think had app:draft
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bear https://bitworking.org/projects/atom/draft-ietf-atompub-protocol-06.html#pub_control_elements
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KartikPrabhu I like mp-status = draft/private . I don't understand what "pending" means. "publish" would just be default I guess
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KartikPrabhu or maybe mp-post_status
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bear I could see pending being used for a vouched item or a mp-post that was not from the owner of the site
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KartikPrabhu i guess one would also need a way to retrieve a draft post for further editing in a micropub client
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KevinMarks Pending might also be what you return after accepting a post but while the site is rebuilding?
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bear I could see that happening for a site that is a micropub proxy, but not sure how that would work with say my own site - that is what 202 and publish means IMO
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bear this all means that pending shouldn't be in the list until someone comes up with an implementation that requires it
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bear and like all other things micropub, if it's not in the spec then implemenations should ignore but store
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aaronpk I guess pending would be for clients I don't quite trust and want to manually approve each post they create
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aaronpk im thinking automatic sources like my Withings scale or sleep import
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KartikPrabhu that sort of makes sense
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KevinMarks It makes sense if you're using mp to post comments
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GWG I like the suggestions given
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www.boffosocko.com edited /events/2016-10-05-homebrew-website-club (+73) "LA Cancelled - Chris & Angelo both stuck this week" (view diff)
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ChrisAldrich !tell tantek Thanks for the checklist example, I've got a personal separate list, but should put up a public facing one for AngeloGladding and others to help out
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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kevinmarks.com edited /events/2016-10-05-homebrew-website-club (+98) "/* San Francisco */ indie event" (view diff)
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kevinmarks.com edited /events/2016-10-05-homebrew-website-club (+33) "/* San Francisco */ FB event" (view diff)
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pfefferle good morning
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Loqi morning!
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GWG !tell pfefferle Sent you a PR. Curious if it works in your opinion.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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pfefferle GWG thanks! will merge it in a branch to finish it completely without breaking the master... and please use an editor that shows indents! ;)
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Loqi pfefferle: GWG left you a message 35 minutes ago: Sent you a PR. Curious if it works in your opinion.
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cweiske.de edited /Micropub/Servers (+2) "/* Implementation status */ update implementation status" (view diff)
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cweiske aaronpk, micropub.rocks: "The link you followed is invalid or has expired. Please try again."
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aaronpk when logging in?
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cweiske when clicking the link in the email
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cweiske I applied for it ~30m ago
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aaronpk i think it lasts 10 minutes
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aaronpk did it really take 30 minutes to arrive? i can increase the timeout
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cweiske my email server has a quarantine time of ~15 minutes for new connections
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cweiske and I was away emptying the dishwasher and talking to people
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aaronpk aha
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aaronpk oh it's at 5 minutes actually
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cweiske I can add new endpoints without filling in any data
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aaronpk i'll bump it to 30 minutes
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aaronpk yeah it lets you add more than one endpoint to test
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cweiske I mean no dataw
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cweiske form was empty
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aaronpk oh ha
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cweiske manual endpoint adding because micropub.rocks doesn't act as client yet?
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aaronpk yeah
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aaronpk well no, it's a client, but it doesn't support discovery/auth yet
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aaronpk I also wanted to make sure it lets people test with servers that don't necessarily support indieauth
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aaronpk just added a set of tests for updating posts!
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GWG !tell pfefferle My vim config auto-indents now. I'm not sure why you keep finding issues. I set everything to try and overcome my issues.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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cweiske aaronpk, I basically cannot use micropub.rocks server tests right now because commentpara.de only supports replies/likes/bookmarks but no "normal" posts
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@SimonCoopey Woot. IndieAuth PGP key sign-in implemented. The edge-case king strikes again. (twitter.com/_/status/783398377925074944)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /Planning (+102) "/* Berlin */ Changing my preference so it lines up with #a11yclub" (view diff)
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gRegorLove The superfeedr custom hubs have http and https versions, but the instructions on the page say to ping the https versions. I guess they're handling it if I ping either one, though?
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gRegorLove Actually that's subscribe instructions, not ping.
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gRegorLove http://gregorlove.superfeedr.com/
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gRegorLove https://documentation.superfeedr.com/publishers.html says to ping "http://<your-hub-name>.superfeedr.com/"
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Loqi Publishers
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loqi.me created /gatsby (+140) "prompted by KevinMarks1 and dfn added by KevinMarks1" (view diff)