#dev 2016-12-18

2016-12-18 UTC
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@pypi_updates2 ninka 0.3.4: Indieauth Toolkit http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ninka/0.3.4 (twitter.com/_/status/810371517666258944)
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kartikprabhu.com edited /fragmention (+176) "/* Open Source */ add fragmentioner as a UI generator" (view diff)
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kartikprabhu.com edited /fragmention (+127) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ add fragmentioner as example usage" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Planning () "(-516) done with 2016 IWCs, SF planning moved to 2017" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+207) "note general planning date notes from experience with this year (and from past memories)" (view diff)
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kartikprabhu.com edited /Planning (+25) "/* NYC 2017 */ add myself as interested in NYC 2017 IWC" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /commitments (+126) "prompted by Zegnat and dfn added by Zegnat" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /commitments (+46) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /commitments (+29) "Zegnat added "[[2016-01-01-commitments]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /commitments (+29) "Zegnat added "[[2017-01-01-commitments]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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@franckpaul @elpep nan mais comme ça, une fois que t’auras codé les webmention, tu pourras coder un plugin typo :-p #dispasmerci (twitter.com/_/status/810410448235347968)
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kartikprabhu.com edited /2017-01-01-commitments (+541) "/* Commitments */ add me" (view diff)
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petermolnar https://www.kennethreitz.org/essays/introducing-maya-datetimes-for-humans - this is our saviour for python dates
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Zegnat That does look lovely, petermolnar. Any PHP ports? ;)
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petermolnar yeah... date() :)
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petermolnar PHP is much better with it's default lib at handling dates and times than Python
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Zegnat that’s true, I have had very few problems with PHP’s date(). JavaScript is normally the painful part IMHO
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petermolnar so is Python
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petermolnar Perl is on PHP level
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sknebel petermolnar: did you look into it already in detail? as in, why is this the saviour and not arrow or pendulum? (I have to admit, I'm kind of sceptical of Yet Another Python-datetime-llibrary)
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petermolnar I've only read about arrow and pendulum after this and not yet tested the one and most important aspect of it: the default .now() is epoch
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petermolnar I'm hoping that this, unlike the rest, will use the _real_ epoch instead of a localized one
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petermolnar I'll test it out later
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petermolnar but it's true that I wasn't aware of arrow and pendulum
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sknebel ok
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sknebel those two (and a few other, minor alternatives) already cover quite a bit of the problem space, with different choices and pain points, and I kind of fear that any new contender picks a subset of these pain points, fixes them and introduces new ones in the process ;)
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sknebel petermolnar: so after looking at the code, Maya actually is just a thin wrapper around other libraries, making a unified API for them. So using it is mostly going be a matter of taste in API styles
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+193) "planning is now 2017 by default, dedup SF, need to figure out a method to archiving past years plannings, completeds" (view diff)
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gRegorLove !tell tantek Re archiving planning notes I added an "Initial Planning" subhead to the IWC page, like https://indieweb.org/2016/LA/Planning#Initial_Planning
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegorLove !tell tantek Linked from https://indieweb.org/Planning#Completed
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gregorlove.com edited /2016/Berlin (+2927) "/* See Also */ archive planning notes" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning () "(-2650) /* Berlin 2016 */ link to archived planning notes" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+59) "/* Completed */ archived planning notes" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2016/MIT2 (+813) "/* See Also */ archive planning notes" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning () "(-541) /* MIT2 2016 */ link to archived planning" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Planning (+57) "/* Completed */ link to archived planning" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /IndieWebCamps (+368) "NYC2 2016" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /IndieWebCamps (+27) "Upcoming: comment out past IWC, +link to /Planning" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /IndieWebCamps (+380) "Brighton 2016" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /IndieWebCamps (+372) "Berlin 2016" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /IndieWebCamps (+361) "LA 2016" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /IndieWebCamps (+326) "MIT2 2016" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /StartSSL (-4) "link dfn, add StartCom" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /HTTPS (+154) "/* Obtain */ remove StartSSL/Wosign link, note root certificate remove, link to StartSSL" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /StartSSL (+225) "/* Criticism */ It seams that wosign has registered the domains letsencrypt.cn and letsencrypt.com.cn in 2014 after the public announce of Let's Encrypt" (view diff)
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aaronpk whoa really?
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KartikPrabhu that is some shady stuff
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bear files websub.rocks issue :)
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bear runs to get food