#dev 2016-12-20

2016-12-20 UTC
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KartikPrabhu select the bolded bits in FF and CHrome to see the diff
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KartikPrabhu anyone what to test this on IE/Edge or Opera?
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KartikPrabhu or non-Ubuntu installs
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KevinMarks Mac safari matches chrome - %c2a0
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KevinMarks %c2%a0
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KartikPrabhu what about mac FF you have that?
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KartikPrabhu this might not be an OS issue but good to check
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KevinMarks Mac Ff does %20 too
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KevinMarks I tried android Ff, but the script doesn't show an alert
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tantek I don't understand the extra %C2
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KevinMarks That's utf-8
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KartikPrabhu is out for a bit, will check discussion
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KevinMarks A0 is over 80 so it gets encoded as 2 bytes
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KevinMarks Selection.toString doesn't seem to be in a spec
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tantek hmm what does MDN say
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tantek https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Selection/toString
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tantek and that led me eventually to http://w3c.github.io/selection-api/#selection-interface
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tantek specifically, stringifier
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tantek !tell KartikPrabhu I think this is the place to file a bug on Selection.toString being insufficiently defined https://github.com/w3c/selection-api/issues with your test case and noting inconsistency between Firefox and Chrome
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell KartikPrabhu this bug might already cover it or you can at least add your test case to it https://github.com/w3c/selection-api/issues/7
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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loqi.me edited /js;dr (+48) "tantek added "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13212465" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek what is canonical?
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Loqi The canonical copy of a piece of content is the “truest” copy https://indieweb.org/canonical
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tantek huh
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tantek what is rel-canonical
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Loqi rel=canonical is a way to indicate that a hyperlink links to the original and canonical version of the current page https://indieweb.org/rel-canonical
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tantek rel-canonical << https://gist.github.com/aaronpk/786c84682056bcbb5ebdd3d4932d9199
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Loqi ok, I added "https://gist.github.com/aaronpk/786c84682056bcbb5ebdd3d4932d9199" to the "See Also" section of /rel-canonical
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loqi.me edited /rel-canonical (+67) "tantek added "https://gist.github.com/aaronpk/786c84682056bcbb5ebdd3d4932d9199" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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aaronpk i added the rel=canonical link tag based on my experience using the rel=canonical bookmarklet with success
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tantek.com edited /PBWorks (+1247) "/* Criticism */ Auto-reclaim site-deaths" (view diff)
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petermolnar anyone around using python whoosh for self-hosted search? any good how-to-start on it? :)
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cweiske.de edited /Loqi (+112) "/* Commands and Queries */" (view diff)
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www.svenknebel.de edited /Loqi (+68) "multiuser !tell" (view diff)
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@Inkwater_Masha 5 Ways to Avoid Infodumping #amwriting #indieauth #selfpub http://alyssahollingsworth.com/2014/12/08/5-ways-to-avoid-infodumping/?platform=hootsuite (twitter.com/_/status/811214702772686848)
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tantek good morning #indieweb-dev
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tantek KartikPrabhu: have you compared selection.toString vs innerText on the same element?
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KartikPrabhu messages?
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Loqi KartikPrabhu: tantek left you a message 15 hours, 45 minutes ago: I think this is the place to file a bug on Selection.toString being insufficiently defined https://github.com/w3c/selection-api/issues with your test case and noting inconsistency between Firefox and Chrome
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Loqi KartikPrabhu: tantek left you a message 15 hours, 40 minutes ago: this bug might already cover it or you can at least add your test case to it https://github.com/w3c/selection-api/issues/7
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tantek KartikPrabhu: also try innerText on the same element for comparison (i.e. if its the same as selection.toString of the entire element or not)
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tantek if innerText is inconsistent between browsers, then that is something that is more well specified and we can likely find a bug to file (or another spec to fix, might come down to CSS whitespace processing)
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KartikPrabhu ok i'll check
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KartikPrabhu innerText on both FF and Chrome gives the UTF-8 encoded non-break space
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KartikPrabhu so selection.toString is the problem in FF
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tantek KartikPrabhu: a-ha! then that's the bug to report, on bugzilla.mozilla.org
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tantek and definitely add me to the cc list
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tantek feel free to paste the bugzilla URL here when you've got it
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk, that worked, now able to parse context from hubzilla/friendica sites https://ben.thatmustbe.me/note/2016/12/19/2/
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Loqi [Ben Roberts] testing out hubzilla's permalink parsability
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ben_thatmustbeme now all they need is to support receiving webmentions on their end
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aaronpk what worked?
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: we should document the steps you're advocating / getting working in /friendly
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tantek receiving webmentions is a pretty big step
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tantek unless someone already has infrastructure for handling federated comments
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk, looking for the actual URL to match up
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kevinmarks.com edited /events/2016-12-28-homebrew-website-club (+54) "/* San Francisco */" (view diff)
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KartikPrabhu tantek: what should I use to cc you on the bug report?
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tantek there's an add CC area near the top right
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tantek if you start typing my name, it should autocomplete you to tantek@...
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KartikPrabhu oh yeah ok. it wasn't obvious that it'll auto complete
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KartikPrabhu should I include my javascript in the comment or simply link to my demo
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tantek linking should be fine, perhaps add a comment saying if anyone wants to copy the JS inline, they may go ahead
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KartikPrabhu here is the FF bug report: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1324907
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KartikPrabhu feel free to add other OS confirmations
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aaronpk jeez. twitter doesn't return an http 301 redirect always on t.co
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aaronpk sometimes it's an http 200 with an HTML redirect
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