#dev 2016-12-31

2016-12-31 UTC
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KevinMarks Is the current process written up?
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tantek mostly?
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tantek https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Structure
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KevinMarks That doesn't say how the hwc wiki pages get created (in batches by tantek?)
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sebsel aaronpk I thought mp-syndicate-to was the command to send a syndication, but Quill sends a syndicate-to
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sebsel does was Quill does for now
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sebsel what*
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sebsel yaay, I got my Quill and my Micropub endpoint and my Webmention-sender ánd Brid.gy/publish all hooked op correct :D
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sebsel It syndicates to twitter and saves the link. So happy now.
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ben_thatmustbeme sebsel: it should be mp-. I believe aaronpk mentioned he needs to update it
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ben_thatmustbeme I would say support both for now if you can
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petermolnar ok, relative urls suck
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petermolnar how will I make my site ipfs compatible this way? :(
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aaronpk Oops yeah I gotta update Quill
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aaronpk maybe I'll make that my project for today
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aaronpk petermolnar: yeah relative URLs are tricky. I spent a while making sure my new URLs would work as relative URLs so I can code relative URLs into img tags in blog posts
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petermolnar aaronpk why u fonts.googleapis.com?
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petermolnar back on the relative urls: do you generate static html? if you do, and you open the html file itself ( file:/// ), will your relative urls work? Because if I use /tag/something, the initial / will reset the file path, and would open file:///tag/something
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aaronpk i don't generate static html but i have a similar problem
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aaronpk i want to be able to write <img src="photo.jpg"> in a blog post and have it work, so i had to make my blog post URLs end in a slash even if there is no slug
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aaronpk so you'll see https://aaronparecki.com/2016/12/28/3/day-8-pinned-posts and https://aaronparecki.com/2016/12/28/3/
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Day 8: Pinned Posts #100DaysOfIndieWeb
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aaronpk course then I realized that in order for the images to work when being viewed in the list, I have to use absolute URLs or have my code go parse the HTML anyway
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aaronpk and yeah any URL starting in / will break it when opened with file:// so you'd have to be really thorough and use ../ URLs
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aaronpk w.r.t. fonts, I'm in the process of moving away from that. the reason is semantic-ui.com uses fonts.googleapis.com by default.
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aaronpk this was pretty convincing for me to manually drop that tho https://hackernoon.com/10-things-i-learned-making-the-fastest-site-in-the-world-18a0e1cdf4a7#d27e
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aaronpk so i'm replacing it with https://gist.github.com/aaronpk/b7deb42293dd47b7ef5441a3f5868446
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aaronpk and thanks i forgot that i needed to do that still on my website
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petermolnar that's a good writing imo
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petermolnar the 10-things
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aaronpk It's pretty hilarious
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petermolnar btw, one of my favourite writings in the fonts topic: https://medium.design/system-shock-6b1dc6d6596f
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loqi.me edited /why (+107) "petermolnar added "https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/30/facebook-temporary-ban-kevin-sessums-trump-supporters" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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barryfrost.com edited /2017-01-01-commitments (+161) "/* Barry Frost */" (view diff)
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petermolnar out of curiosity I removed the srcset from my images and made them a fixed size
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petermolnar it seems like a few entries, which a vast amount of pictures fail to completely load when you have all those intermediate sizes listed as well
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aaronpk petermolnar: I was going to mention that, for some reason I got a bunch of connection reset errors on your site for the images . I refreshed the page and everything loaded fine
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petermolnar I don't know what's going on with the connection resets
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petermolnar I'm guessing nginx misconfigurations
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petermolnar it was tweaked for the php-fpm setup
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petermolnar shoot... ulimit set to 4k... nginx set to 8k
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petermolnar most probably that is the reason for the drops
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bear your running out of sockets
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bear which would show up more in high image count pages - lots more parallel loads for them
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petermolnar that is a bit unexpected but it could be that
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petermolnar the setup is approximately the following: the root host has iptables with rate limit on port 443 set to 4096/s, forwarded to an internal, virtual eth based lxc container, which is the "root" nginx
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petermolnar this nginx has the main setup, with 16k worker_rlimit_nofile, worker_connections 2048 and is also the proxy to some other, small sites in other lxc containers
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petermolnar but those barely receive any traffic
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petermolnar however, due to this , I do might run out of ports, thanks to the forwarding
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bear yep, your consumer 2x per connection
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petermolnar interesting that I did not had or noticed this problem with the fastcgi-php-fpm
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petermolnar hm
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bear php uses the same socket in multiplex style IIRC
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petermolnar but the images were always the same way: directly by nginx
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bear sorry - badly worded
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bear php is a longer lasting socket so only images would be static
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bear but now everything is, so the browser is opening up even more
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petermolnar any idea what and where to limit to avoid this?
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bear you could get up to 15 connection attempts on the intial page load
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bear nginx connect limit
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petermolnar oh, I found the problem
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petermolnar ipfs...
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petermolnar which is not even doing anything
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petermolnar only that the service is running
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petermolnar I'm slowly giving up on this thing...
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bear is it reaching out to all of it's known peers with long lasting sockets?
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petermolnar yep
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bear I get that with xmpp servers all the time - each inbound request will linger for hours
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bear "just in case"
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petermolnar I have some other stuff running in other lxc nodes, eg. syncthing and namecoind
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petermolnar but those seem to behave in terms of connections
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petermolnar now let's check archiveteam's warrior...
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bear warrior loves parallel jobs - I wouldn't doubt if that is one of your worst offenders
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petermolnar not at this very moment, but I am shutting it down for now
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petermolnar I should get more servers, shouldn't I?
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petermolnar I wonder when the docker fanboys will learn about these issues...
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Loqi yea!
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bear they already are
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bear (at least in the production use places I am linked with)
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bear docker almost requires more smaller servers than a few large ones
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bear for internet scale stuff
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bear and they also require a heck of a lot more load balancing and proxies
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petermolnar ipfs had bitten me for the second time
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petermolnar the first was when hetzner (server rental company) told me to stop scanning the internal network, otherwise I'll be suspended
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petermolnar which was ipfs' default way of looking for other peers
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aaronpk Does http2 reduce this problem of the browser having multiple connections?
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bear people who design and build things like ipfs should all be given slow/old computers and networks to test with
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aaronpk bear++
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Loqi bear has 9 karma in this channel (171 overall)
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petermolnar give that man a BNC router!
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petermolnar ^^^ no meme :(
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bear *everything* looks amazing when run in a vm setup on a modern mac
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aaronpk File an issue or send a PR :-) https://github.com/aaronpk/Meme-API
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bear http2 does indeed reduce the socket count (one of it's design goals)
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bear so that you can shim even more connections per web server
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aaronpk Kewl
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aaronpk Counting down to the leap second btw!
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aaronpk 3 hours 36 minutes until the leap second
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2016-12-31 4:00pm PST (#5972)
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petermolnar aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 21 karma in this channel (1165 overall)
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petermolnar that's for the meme-thing :)
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petermolnar the leap second I'm not worried
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petermolnar although I'm still trying to come up with a scenario of what would be needed to take away a second
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bear for that you just have a double long second
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bear oh, *take away*
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bear hmm
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petermolnar technically, it would be a double second, as in 57...58...59...59...00
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petermolnar most probably
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petermolnar but what could result it,
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petermolnar ?
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petermolnar althought that chat topic
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aaronpk I thought the expected behavior is that there's a 23:59:60 today
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bear yep, that's adding a second
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bear taking away a second would be 57 .. 59 .. 00
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loqi.me edited /performance (+62) "tantek added "https://aaronparecki.com/2016/12/31/11/day-11-simpler-fonts" to "See Also"" (view diff)