#dev 2017-04-12

2017-04-12 UTC
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ignite.digitalignition.net
edited /WordPress (+0) "Fixing link that had moved and formatting that broke linking of post after that"
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[cleverdevil]
I'm tinkering this evening on a webhook for Plex that will Micropub a "now playing" event to my site.
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[cleverdevil]
Any recommendations on an easy Webmention client library for PHP?
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[cleverdevil]
I've already got the entire webhook payload processing, and can pretty easily build the content at this point.
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[cleverdevil]
But, I'd prefer not to hand-roll the Micropub...
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miklb
[cleverdevil] library for sending?
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aaronpk
There's an IndieAuth client for PHP which handles the authorization part
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aaronpk
the actual Micropub request is just a post so you don't gain much by using a library
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[cleverdevil]
Yah, library for sending.
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[cleverdevil]
Good point...
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[cleverdevil]
Its not that complicated... I've done it from pure Python before.
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aaronpk
Wait webmention or Micropub
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[cleverdevil]
Ah, I see, I said Micropub in the first message and Webmention in the second ?
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[cleverdevil]
Yeah, definitely Micropub.
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miklb
what is featured
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Loqi
featured is a proposed mf2 property (typically as u-featured) for h-entry that indicates a representative image for a primarily textual post https://indieweb.org/featured
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miklb.com
edited /featured (+409) "/* IndieWeb Examples */"
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getpop.org
edited /2017/Nuremberg/Guest_List (+259) "/* Participants */"
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@captaxin
ReadersGazette: BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.thejugglingauthor.com/indieauth/ Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 53
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@karenbwill
RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.thejugglingauthor.com/indieauth/ Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 53
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aaronparecki.com
edited /Micropub-brainstorming (+864) "provide end-user error messages"
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gRegorLove
aaronpk: I made updates to 2017.indieweb.org/bellingham, can you deploy?
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gRegorLove
miklb: Did you get the blockquote / phpdom stuff sorted out?
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miklb
gRegorLove I did!
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miklb
I went with my friend Chris's sledge hammer approach. Another friend suggested XPath, but my quick test didn't work. Will revisit in future for a better long term solution.
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gRegorLove
xpath can be confusing in my experience, heh
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gRegorLove
Working on php-mf2 parser has familiarized me with it some
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miklb
gRegorLove I can only imagine
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loqi.me
edited /Health (+53) "[cleverdevil] added "http://hub.humanapi.co/v1.0/page/apple-health-data" to "See Also""
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tantek
miklb but did you cue up Peter Gabriel for that? (sledge hammer)
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miklb
tantek lol, no, but thanks for the ear worm
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www.svenknebel.de
edited /Private-Webmention (+134) "/* Issues */ redirects?"
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martymcguire[m]
that is also where my mind went, gRegorLove
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ben.thatmustbe.me
edited /Mastodon (+129) "/* Building Blocks */"
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gregorlove.com
edited /Mastodon (+76) "/* Features */ content warning"
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tantek.com
edited /Strava (+157) "stub Brainstorming"
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tantek
!tell dgold,chrisaldrich re: 10C definitely worth requesting that bits be open sourced for helping add more indieweb friendly functionality, like perhaps the markup templates so mf2 can be added
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek.com
edited /10Centuries (-11) "move a couple of indieweb friendly notes to that section"
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gRegorLove
"code collaboration isn't going to happen with v4 at this point in time, but v5 will be completely open from the get-go. For the moment some open docs are what I can offer. As for "machine-readable", isn't every document technically readable by a machine? ?"
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tantek
is wondering about t-shirts for IWS
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tantek
just remembered that American Apparel is shutting down retail this month, thus if we want to use their shirts again its likely we need to put in an order soon
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loqi.me
created /smart_speaker (+264) "prompted by tantek and dfn added by tantek"
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[eddie]
Regarding micropub extensions, it mentions server commands are prefixed with mp-. There is also a section regarding new properties: https://indieweb.org/Micropub-extensions Are new properties generally considered to have a mp- prefix or are they considered part of the h-entry?
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[eddie]
I’m specifically talking about visibility
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tantek
eddie - visibility, is that like draft vs published?
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[eddie]
It’s like Private/Public
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tantek
private to just the author? or more broadly to a particular ACL?
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tantek
what is a private post
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Loqi
private posts refer to posts or portions of posts which are private to either the author or to a limited audience chosen by the author https://indieweb.org/private_post
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[eddie]
I assume private is just the author, unless the server is given additional rules to add ACL
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[eddie]
Ohhhh, I think I just realized it’s mentioned but nothing implements it yet
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[eddie]
Because Post Status lists Quill and p3k as implementors, but Visibility just talks about Wordpress
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[eddie]
So I guess the question would be how post-status is treated, with the mp- prefix or not.
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[eddie]
And I could probably just test that one with Quill to find otu ?
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tantek
or check the Quill source :)
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www.boffosocko.com
edited /Template:Infobox_person/doc (+183) "elsewhere into template"
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tantek
whoa wat
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tantek
what is elsewhere
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "elsewhere" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek
waits to see what chrisaldrich is up to
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[chrisaldrich]
tantek: Just following on gRegorLove's coattails /User:Boffosocko.com
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Loqi
[chrisaldrich]: tantek left you a message 2 hours, 42 minutes ago: re: 10C definitely worth requesting that bits be open sourced for helping add more indieweb friendly functionality, like perhaps the markup templates so mf2 can be added
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[chrisaldrich]
most of the other templates had an "elsewhere"
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tantek
really confused about what templates you're talking about - I don't know of any like that
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gRegorLove
iirc I set that up around IWS last year when shaners was working on the h-card thing to replace user pages
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[chrisaldrich]
then there's also an attendee template for IWC
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gRegorLove
So it was an attempt to add a nice looking h-card to user pages
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tantek
this is now finally starting to sound somewhat familiar
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tantek
thanks gRegorLove yes that makes sense and sounds very wikipedia-like
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[chrisaldrich]
Could also be used to cut and paste the html into one's site...
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tantek
hey when did https://2017.indieweb.org go live? anyone?
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Loqi
IndieWeb Summit
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gRegorLove
Unfortunately it doesn't work nicely with Loqi because Loqi looks for h-entry summaries
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gRegorLove
Who is gRegorLove
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Loqi
gRegor Morrill photo/avatar for gRegor Morrill gRegor Morrill is a software developer living in Bellingham, Washington. Pronouns: he/him/his http://gregorlove.com https://indieweb.org/User:Gregorlove.com
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tantek
was that not expected?
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gRegorLove
tantek: 2017 subdomain went up late last week-ish
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tantek
oh! did it make the newsletter?
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gRegorLove
Er, I think it was just after.
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gRegorLove
2017.indieweb.org/bellingham is up too!
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[chrisaldrich]
Saturday I think
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tantek
alrighty then, got to get cranking on the 2017/* pages
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tantek
especially the one that https://2017.indieweb.org links to!
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Loqi
IndieWeb Summit
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tantek
what is 2017/Schedule ?
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gRegorLove
Don't think Loqi answers with slashes
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[chrisaldrich]
gRegorLove, I was looking at modifying that template to include a <dfn>, but wasn't sure if Loqi would prefer the p-summary over <dnf>
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gRegorLove
[chrisaldrich]: Loqi looks for p-summary. The wiki plugin auto-adds p-summary around the first sentence with <dfn> if there isn't an explicit one, or another top-level h-*
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Loqi
[chrisaldrich]: loqi looks for p-summary. the wiki plugin auto-adds p-summary around the first sentence with <dfn> if there isn't an explicit one
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gRegorLove
Don't mimic me, Loqi :P
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gRegorLove
So I don't think a <dfn> is necessary
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gRegorLove
tantek: Is there a leader summit at IWS this year, or TBD?
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tantek
gRegorLove: TBD - I think we should do one
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tantek
last year's was very helpful and resulted in a bunch of pretty important decision / changes that I think benefitted the community greatly (e.g. IRC channels)
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gRegorLove
I have the day off, so I'm available
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tantek
on the Friday?
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tantek
alright let's start planning that then
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tantek
want to take a crack at drafting /2017/Schedule ?
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gregorlove.com
edited /User:Gregorlove.com (+57) "/* Introduction */ current HWC/IWC"
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gRegorLove
After 2017/Bellingham/Schedule, sure :)
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gRegorLove
!tell aaronpk: I made updates to 2017.indieweb.org/bellingham, can you deploy? Thanks!
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
heh ok I'll stub
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tantek
finds he already started editing a different page
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tantek.com
edited /PubSub (+75) "start the WebSub renaming with dfn / summary"
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tantek.com
deleted /WebSub "Deleted to make way for move"
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tantek.com
moved /PubSub to /WebSub "renamed since WebSub is CR now, prior page was just a dfn stub"
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tantek
what is WebSub
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Loqi
WebSub (previously known as PubSubHubbub or PuSH, and briefly PubSub) is a notification-based protocol for web publishing and subscribing to streams and legacy feed files in real time https://indieweb.org/WebSub
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aaronpk
"and briefly PubSub" lol
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Loqi
aaronpk: gRegorLove left you a message 20 minutes ago: I made updates to 2017.indieweb.org/bellingham, can you deploy? Thanks!
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aaronpk
gRegorLove: updated
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gregorlove.com
created /2017/Bellingham/Schedule (+4637) "initial set up with placeholders for sessions"
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tantek.com
created /2017/Schedule (+792) "stub"
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tantek
ok gRegorLove you can add yourself as avail / up for the leaders summit now there https://indieweb.org/2017/Schedule
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gRegorLove
Ok, heading out now. Will update tonight.
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aaronpk
PSA: that will be the unconference day of osbridge
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tantek
aaronpk - yeah I realized that
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tantek
we'll figure it out with the half-day overlap
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tantek
current thinking: IWLS morning of, break for lunch / random leader bonding activity optional OSBridge barcamp day in the afternoon
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tantek
or just enjoy Portland outdoors in the sunshine
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tantek
that is, we can likely skip the intro/session proposal time of OSBridge barcamp day since we'll be doing two days of indieweb sessions that weekend and don't need to propose any new ones to OSBridge
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tantek
that's just off the top of my head
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tantek
also I feel like the "before lunch" time is particularly effective at having a high-cognitive-functioning focused meetup to decide on "hard questions" of community and such
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aaronpk
much better than after lunch
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tantek
maybe we can kick it off with a DIY breakfast taco bar ;)
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tantek
(food is always a good incentive to get people to show up :) )
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tantek.com
edited /2017/Schedule (+1123) "Leaders Summit brainstorm"
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tantek.com
edited /2017/Schedule (+48) "/* Leaders Summit */ separate page? prefix my what suggestions"
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tantek
aaronpk,gRegorLove: you inspired me to brainstorm a bit more: https://indieweb.org/2017/Schedule#Leaders_Summit (captured the schedule thoughts)
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tantek.com
edited /Timehop (+273) "Timehopception define here instead of its own page"
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