#dev 2017-05-05

2017-05-05 UTC
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petermolnar ping Loqi
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Loqi petermolnar: tantek left you a message 3 weeks, 1 day ago: are you available the evening of Friday 2017-06-23 to remote participate in an IndieWeb Leaders Summit? Add a note accordingly: https://indieweb.org/2017/Schedule#Comments
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petermolnar !tell tantek re Indieweb (Leaders) Summit: I can do it remotely
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk well this looks interesting https://github.com/pirate/pocket-archive-stream
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Loqi [pirate] pocket-archive-stream: ? Save an archived copy of all websites starred using Pocket. Outputs browseable html.
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sknebel seems to be wget for html + headless chrome for pdf and screenshot
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aaronpk I'm curious if they do a good job of downloading all the assets too
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aaronpk wget by itself misses a bunch
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sknebel https://github.com/pirate/pocket-archive-stream/blob/master/archive.py#L73 <- wget call
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sknebel the webmemex guys have been building something they call "freeze dry" for their browser plugin, where they serialize the DOM from the browser (and inline images and CSS, kill scripts, ...) to HTML
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sknebel (Gerben, who started the project, was at IWC berlin and at last HWC. If you haven't checked out the online demo of where they want to go with the plugin, it's worth it: http://demo.webmemex.org/ )
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ben_thatmustbeme wipes his brow
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ben_thatmustbeme writing an mf2 parser from scratch takes it out of you
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sknebel ben_thatmustbeme++ (I've looked at a few of the problems/links you posted in #microformats and always was just glad that it's not *my* problem right now)
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme has 9 karma in this channel (211 overall)
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gRegorLove what is riot.im
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Loqi Riot.im is https://riot.im/ a glossy Matrix client https://indieweb.org/Riot.im
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gRegorLove what is Middleman
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Loqi Middleman is a static site generator https://indieweb.org/Middleman
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KartikPrabhu if I cache avatars from responses locally, should the u-photo of the person point to the local cache or the original?
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: what do you do? ^
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KartikPrabhu hmm aaronpk links to the cache
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aaronpk i remember some discussion about fhis from a while ago
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aaronpk i link to my cached copy because that's what i display
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: yeah implementing that now. can change if we have some other convention :)
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KartikPrabhu boom! avatars being proxied now :D
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KartikPrabhu tantek: any opinion on https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2017-05-05#t1494011706234000
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Loqi [KartikPrabhu] if I cache avatars from responses locally, should the u-photo of the person point to the local cache or the original?
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tantek local cache helps you maintain https non-mixed content integrity
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Loqi tantek: petermolnar left you a message 10 hours, 2 minutes ago: re Indieweb (Leaders) Summit: I can do it remotely
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tantek woot! petermolnar
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Loqi ?
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KartikPrabhu so point the u-photo to the cache?
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tantek I think that's makes sense
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tantek that* makes
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KartikPrabhu cool. done that now :)
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petermolnar how do you invalidate the cache?
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KartikPrabhu petermolnar: as in refresh it?
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petermolnar a cache usually has some ttl or expire conditions
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petermolnar I was wondering what triggers it in your case
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tantek lazy cache is probably fine for this
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KartikPrabhu petermolnar: yeah caching for a year currently
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tantek also there's something to be said for treating the icon cache as an archive of what icon that person used when the post was posted
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KartikPrabhu yes, since it is only to display photos in avatars
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aaronpk they are permanent archives for me
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aaronpk because in practice i saw too many avatars disappear in my old posts
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KartikPrabhu to be honest, I am bootlegging off of Google's image cache/resize service https://carlo.zottmann.org/posts/2013/04/14/google-image-resizer.html
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GWG miklb, pfefferle has raised concerns about the identity stuff in the Indieweb plugin
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miklb GWG I haven't had a chance to read through them yet, but I want to soon.
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GWG I would like to try to address them.
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GWG I don't want to move that stuff out of the plugin
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miklb just curious does IndieWeb have anything documented on how community code (/indieweb) handles how features are added/removed from repos?
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miklb GWG I'll need to continue this conversation later this evening
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