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www.boffosocko.com edited /rsvp (+530) "Better description/options for RSVPing with WordPress" (view diff)
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{{stub}} <dfn>Edmonton</dfn>, the capital of Alberta , has fortnightly [[Homebrew_Website_Club#edmonton|Homebrew Website Club meetups]]. Our meetups are currently held in the He..."" (view diff)
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pfefferle !tell chrisaldrich I transfered the press this plugin to the indieweb org, perhaps you can help writing the email, so I can push it to WP.org https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieweb-press-this
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@ChrisAldrich @hibbittsdesign @THiNGkeriNG @bonni208 @mburtis I'm curious if you've considered adding webmention to @getgrav for… http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/hibbittsdesign-thingkering-bonni208-mburtis-im-curious-if-youve-considered-adding (twitter.com/_/status/872516129889161216)
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@hibbittsdesign @ChrisAldrich @THiNGkeriNG @bonni208 @mburtis @getgrav There is a Webmention plugin (in Beta) for Grav, but I've no… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/872518339838345216 (twitter.com/_/status/872518339838345216)
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[chrisaldrich] Zegnat thanks for the note (I'm aware of most and was trying to help bait hibbitts to joining us all here--in part to help jeremycherfas along as well as potentially that plugin.) ?
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Loqi [chrisaldrich]: pfefferle left you a message 12 hours, 6 minutes ago: I transfered the press this plugin to the indieweb org, perhaps you can help writing the email, so I can push it to WP.org https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieweb-press-this
# Loqi [chrisaldrich]: Zegnat left you a message 7 minutes ago: as far as I could tell about Grav, it is 100% based on plugins. Even the admin panel is a plugin. I am not sure such a thing as non-plugin Webmentions would work for them. (I have contributed some fixes to the mentioned webmention plugin, jeremycherfas uses it.)
# [chrisaldrich] There's been a bit of discussion of indieweb at the #domains17 conference in the past few days and most discussed WordPress while others were looking for non-WP solutions.
# [chrisaldrich] Grav was one of the ones that had some interest/traction...
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "domains17" yet. Would you like to create it?
# [chrisaldrich] It's an academic conference hosted by Reclaim Hosting (as part of their Domain of One's Own initiative). It was educators and technologists interested in Indieweb technologies for educational use.
# [chrisaldrich] I've been trying to do some indieweb advocation within the group as they're trying to do a lot of what we're doing/have done here. There's a lot of overlap to the two groups.
# [chrisaldrich] I've been adding some resources from it to /Indieweb_for_Education
# [chrisaldrich] A lot of HigherEd has been using closed systems (at significant cost) for years; there are lots who are trying to open up these systems
# [chrisaldrich] They're also trying to get students to have their own domains and use them not only for school related work, but for their lives afterwards.
# [chrisaldrich] What is Moodle?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Moodle" yet. Would you like to create it?
# [chrisaldrich] Moodle is a Learning Platform or course management system (CMS) - a free Open Source software package designed to help educators create effective online course materials.
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Zegnat [chrisaldrich]. Interesting. I have had a university course in English that wanted me to blog. But they were completely uninterested in where or how. Teacher themselves did not have a public blog. I feel it should start with the educators who often do not have an online presence to speak off.
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# [chrisaldrich] Zegnat I think a lot of these particular educators are either gen1 or gen2 (at worst), but are trying to make things easier for their students, many of whom are gen3+
# [chrisaldrich] I suspect that as a group, they can help to drastically widen out the indieweb audience as well as their reach.
# [chrisaldrich] I suspect that if they can grab a handle of the HWC concept, they could press it within their university communities. Several mentioned trying to get colleagues to selfdogfood as a means of spreading the wealth.
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KartikPrabhu aren't homepage mentions different only on the "display the comment" side and not actually on the webmention processing side
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# KartikPrabhu oh ok. I was interpreting "handling" to mean processing them in the webmention receiving flow.
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# [chrisaldrich] I reprogrammed all my homepage webmentions to go to a separate page (especially for load times on the front page over time)
# [chrisaldrich] perhaps you could include a toggle in the admin interface to choose a page to send them to in WP?
# [chrisaldrich] That would prevent people from having to figure it out and create special code for it
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gRegorLove Separate WordPress plugin for homepage webmentions? I thought we were trying to trim them down? :)
# [chrisaldrich] Here's where I documented some of how I'm doing it: http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/15/mentions-from-twitter-to-my-website/#Exotic+Webmentions
# [chrisaldrich] I'm with gRegorLove, don't do an extra plugin unless it's for quick dev which then get's rolled into the main one.
# gRegorLove Perhaps a suggested practice could be: 1) set up a WP page example.com/notifications 2) Change a plugin setting to send homepage webmentions to that page
# [chrisaldrich] I haven't tried it but can webmentions be sent to a "private" page in WP? If so, then the plugin could create a new page (maybe called Mentions) and assign webmentions to be sent to it?
# [chrisaldrich] It could then also have a toggle for private/public so people could show/not show them
# gRegorLove Oope, think [chrisaldrich] just suggested that. Sorry didn't read up enough
# gRegorLove Should be able to [chrisaldrich], since that's during wm processing and it's just db queries
# gRegorLove E.g. it's not actually doing HTTP requests, so doesn't matter if the page is 404, 403, etc. to the public
# [chrisaldrich] np gRegorLove, it just shows we're not all crazy and that others would likely want the same thing
# gRegorLove By "send homepage mentions to that page" I meant the plugin would process homepage webmentions as comments on that page
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ben_thatmustbeme now the difficult choice, do i just go ahead and switch over to my new site despite the fact that half of the stuff does not yet work
# Loqi ben_thatmustbeme: tantek left you a message 1 day, 18 hours ago: added a bunch more proposed Leaders Summit sessions for your consideration - please take a look and add interested (or not) notes, or other suggestions! https://indieweb.org/2017/Leaders#Sessions
# ben_thatmustbeme aww, there are goodie bags, man i'm really missing out
# gRegorLove breakstuff++
# ben_thatmustbeme the problem is that i don't actually send webmentions even yet
# ben_thatmustbeme or for that matter, edit posts
# ben_thatmustbeme or post
# ben_thatmustbeme lol
# ben_thatmustbeme test in prod!
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# ben_thatmustbeme well, i can still log in to things
# ben_thatmustbeme thats good
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tantek wow the WebSub article was deleted! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebSub
# gRegorLove animals? haha
# KartikPrabhu wait why is it COI?
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# tantek well this is not what I expected: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropub (and clearly needs disambiguation)