#dev 2017-06-22

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schmarty [aarongustafson]++ ! I look forward to playing with this new plugin! I currently have no automatic outgoing webmentions (or tracking of mentions sent, since I use telegraph).
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pfefferle good morning
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Loqi rise and shine!
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loqi.me edited /blogroll (+29) "[kevinmarks] added "https://gmpg.org/xfn/intro" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /SEO (+32) "Zegnat added "http://powazek.com/posts/2090" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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sebastiangreger.net edited /events/2017-06-28-homebrew-website-club (+48) "/* Berlin */ added 28.6." (view diff)
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Zegnat sgreger++ for HWC Berlin <3
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Zegnat (And the other organisers, of course!)
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sknebel aww, I wanted to get Kaja to the point of doing that tomorrow. well, next time ;)
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sknebel (oh, btw, Zegnat: we're going to stay with normal schedule at least for the next few times, so it can be added by default for now. locations still TBA tho)
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Zegnat We should make a list of which HWCs we consider regulars, so we have something to point at during Leaders
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Zegnat adds to todo list
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Loqi yea
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tantek Zegnat, there are already lists - we should organize /hwc such that it is clear which are regulars
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Zegnat Yeah, I just don’t want to overhaul /hwc before talking it through during Leaders
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Zegnat And want a guide for my self during said talk :p
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Zegnat Probably just writing it down on my notepad next to the computer
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Zegnat shamefully admits to keeping paper to write stuff on his desk
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sknebel nothing shameful about that
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sebastiangreger.net edited /events/2017-06-28-homebrew-website-club (+141) "/* Berlin */ added indie event" (view diff)
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vanderven.se martijn uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:facebook-add-friend-martijn.png]]""
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vanderven.se martijn uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:facebook-family-and-relationships.png]]""
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[kevinmarks] wow https://twitter.com/bcrypt/status/877782985386348545
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@bcrypt A single person gained the ability to compromise 52% of Node packages by harvesting NPM credentials. https://github.com/ChALkeR/notes/blob/master/Gathering-weak-npm-credentials.md (twitter.com/_/status/877782985386348545)
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vanderven.se martijn uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:facebook-friend-lists.png]]""
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vanderven.se martijn edited /friending (+855) "Update Facebook, with some features that are friends specific." (view diff)
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Zegnat If someone feels like fixing up the display of /friending#Facebook: please! I thought I would get some screenshots in but it really doesn’t look good.
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Zegnat tantek, I hope that makes it somewhat more clear how Facebook handles friends, as well as family relationship status
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Zegnat (not sure if you ever used that feature)
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petermolnar npm, such a blessing to have a reliable, decently organized, secure system...
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loqi.me edited /IndieMark (+112) "[kevinmarks] added "https://kongaloosh.com/e/2017/6/22/hello-world describes problems with an extrinsic to do list like indiemark" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Zegnat “One of the users controlling ~2 million package downloads / month had their npm username as a password.”
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petermolnar it was fun to see the turmoil leftpad caused
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petermolnar looks like we're heading towards another
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vanderven.se martijn edited /friending (+359) "/* On Facebook */ Splitting posting audience from other friend features, noting that unfollowing can happen without losing the friend." (view diff)
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ben_thatmustbeme woah
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ben_thatmustbeme got an indieauth error
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sknebel indieauth.com?
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah
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ben_thatmustbeme ever since adding the oath2 delegation stuff
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sknebel while testing custom auth endpoint?
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ben_thatmustbeme while logging in to quill
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sknebel huh
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ben_thatmustbeme !tell aaronpk NoMethodError at /auth/github/callback undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass file: auth-web.rb location: block (2 levels) in <class:Controller> line: 619
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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petermolnar kevinmarks++
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Loqi kevinmarks has 5 karma in this channel (276 overall)
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petermolnar because https://github.com/scripting/myWordEditor/pull/1
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Loqi [kevinmarks] #1 Add h-entry markup to default template
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aaronpk That's odd
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Loqi aaronpk: ben_thatmustbeme left you a message 24 minutes ago: NoMethodError at /auth/github/callback undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass file: auth-web.rb location: block (2 levels) in <class:Controller> line: 619
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, logging in with https:// worked though
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ben_thatmustbeme but it also had a different version of my github url cached it seems
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ben_thatmustbeme i'll experiment with it a little more later
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Zegnat what is principles?
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Loqi The IndieWeb Community is largely based on principles (AKA tenets) such as own your data, scratch your own itches, build tools for yourself, selfdogfood, document your stuff, open source your stuff, UX design is more important than protocols, visible data for humans first and machines second, platform agnostic platforms, plurality over monoculture, longevity, and remember to have fun! https://indieweb.org/principles
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ben_thatmustbeme well, starting the conversation http://btmb.me/s/KP
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Loqi [Ben Roberts] Hello, Ben Roberts from the Social Web Working Group and Social Web Incubator Community Group and the W3C (that second one is open to the public if you are interested in joining). I was looking for some feedback. In yesterday's Social Web Incubat...
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ben_thatmustbeme may be stirring up a hornets nest, dunno
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ben_thatmustbeme should probably shop the idea around here too though, if webfinger were replaced with just a template to go user@host->url or just @url -> url (that one is much simpler haha) what would be the interet in here?
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Loqi ahahahaha
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ben_thatmustbeme shh shh shhh loqi, shhhh
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Zegnat What is WebFinger?
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Loqi WebFinger is a discovery protocol for the web that uses email address-like identifiers to get info about users; it has been largely superseded on the indieweb by the use of personal web sites and representative h-card https://indieweb.org/WebFinger
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Zegnat ah, another instance of “superseded” that might be questionable.
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, there is some credence to the (people don't really remember urls) argument
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ben_thatmustbeme but the user@host get confused with email, which can be problematic if you don't have that email
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ben_thatmustbeme @user@host as mastodon does it seems overkill
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ben_thatmustbeme and none of them (except for friendica's implementation) support subdirs
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Zegnat @user@host makes sense for mastodon. It follows silo mention conventions of starting a mention with @. The extra @host is needed for federation.
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Zegnat Is @host required on Mastodon? Or can it be left off when mentioning a user on the same instance?
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schmarty Zegnat: @user is sufficient when mentioning a user on the same instance you are posting from.
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Zegnat The Mastodon syntax makes sense to me then :)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /WebFinger (+36) "Get rid of loaded “superseded” term, give the actual alternative identifier as a URL." (view diff)
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Zegnat Continuing the fight for a more tech-inclusive indieweb ^^^
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petermolnar Zegnat you do remember when we all stared at the 'finger me!' slogan on some blog digged out from archive.org, right?
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petermolnar inclusive is one thing, ever changing language is another...
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ben_thatmustbeme such a terrible name, thats the one main feedback i have received, 'replace it with a better name'
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Zegnat The name shouldn’t really matter. People implemented PubSubHubuHbuSbuP too because it was useful.
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petermolnar https://indieweb.org/WebFinger#WebFist seriously?!
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, if webfinger wasn't bad enough
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Zegnat petermolnar the inclusivity thing is a new pet peeve of mine where people seem to read the IndieWeb wiki and then say we are against or excluding specific tech. Which we shouldn’t be doing, that’s not what IndieWeb is about. Open Web and selfdogfooding mean you can use whatever you want.
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Zegnat I think it was cweiske who pointed out our (sometimes liberal) use of the word superseded. So that’s one thing I fix when I see it.
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petermolnar discouraging something doesn't mean excluding it
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petermolnar but I do agree some tech should be left behind
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Zegnat Highlighting criticisms and linking to alternatives is fine. Saying Tech A has been superseded by Tech B in the definition of Tech A should only be done when that is actually the case.
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petermolnar no arguments on this
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Zegnat I am not turning around and starting my implementation of WebFist just yet ;)
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ben_thatmustbeme many specs get such treatment as they didn't dogfood before going to spec and as such are really under developed and awkward. I think its fair to be critical of such specifications. claiming superseded is definitely not the correct term
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ben_thatmustbeme at the same point there are a set of "accepted" indieweb building blocks, So i'm not sure we are really inclusive of everything any more
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petermolnar I'm not sure that's bad
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[kevinmarks] The Blaine's grandmother myth that emails are easier to remember than URLs is pretty much disproven.
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[kevinmarks] which was the whole basis of the acct nonsense
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tantek yeah
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tantek nice
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ben_thatmustbeme i can see that as true for people with their own domain
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ben_thatmustbeme is that true for subdirs though
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ben_thatmustbeme look at what you have to use to refer to users on known now
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aaronpk true, i think that email vs URL argument was based around the idea of example.com/user vs just a top-level domain
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aaronpk because the early webfinger discussions were not centered around the idea of each person having their own domain
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tantek yeah, the early webfinger discussions assumed a model of a small number of large silos where users all have accounts
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tantek really crappy model for any standards discussion / creation
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aaronpk i was looking back at the FSWS 2010 pictures and was kind of surprised how everyone there was representing building a service to host tons of users
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aaronpk (including myself)
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tantek but there was this misconception that you have to get the big sites first or something
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tantek aaronpk: not me!
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aaronpk i think that was actually the bigger mindset shift that indieweb came out of
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tantek even the diaspora folks were there for building *software* for pods of a few users each
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tantek no there was too much theory
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aaronpk people-first vs service-first
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tantek and whinging about theoreticals
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tantek people-first came later
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aaronpk that too of course, but i think there was something else
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tantek that was a reframing
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Zegnat petermolnar, see last wiki change ^^^
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tantek FSWS had too little dogfooding, self or otherwise
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tantek which resulted in a lot of handwaving about futures
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tantek or theoretical needs
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Zegnat ben_thatmustbeme re rememberability, the nice thing about URLs for identity over some WebFinger:ed accn-uri is that the prior are often discoverable through search engines users are already familiar with.
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www.svenknebel.de edited /follow (+291) "/* Following as Feedback */" (view diff)
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[kevinmarks] yes exactly. Silos are "I'm kevinmarks on twitter/facebook/[whatever]" which maps to a simple account mapping
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[kevinmarks] which was sg-nodemapper before, and could be the template thing now
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tantek Zegnat, anything meta or about community e.g. exclusive or not - can we please do that in #indieweb-dev? the typical user does not care about that kind of meta
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Zegnat Wait... which meta conversation? Happy to move, please point at the topic that needs to move here.
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tantek Zegnat: anything where anyone is criticizing community rather than technology
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tantek e.g. "calls us out for" <-- refers to community / people
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tantek as opposed to discussing a *user feature* (e.g. "likes"), or a *technology* (e.g. Webmention)
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Zegnat Oooh, you’re looking at a topic yesterday. That was mostly in context to a tweet being brought into the chat by Loqi, but I can see what you mean :) Noted.
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Zegnat I was scrolling all the way back to where I logged on this morning and got really confused for a second
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tantek alright, "superseded" is definitely a dev term
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tantek we should not be afraid or shirk from declaring what tech has been shown to be better by real world implementations, selfdogfooding etc. essentially, what tech has been shown to be better per indieweb principles
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tantek no need to be shy or political about it
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tantek Zegnat, specifically, many of us *tried* to use OpenID, found that it failed miserably per #indieweb principles (e.g. selfdogfooding etc.)
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Loqi +1
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tantek and thus first RelMeAuth was developed as a building block, then IndieAuth.com the service, and eventually IndieAuth the protocol
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aaronpk while that is true, i do think there are (were?) some specific instances on the wiki where the term "superseded" was applied a bit too generously
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Zegnat Yes. And even as a dev term I feel that it is easy to misuse. E.g. OpenID was superseded by OpenID 2.0 which was superseded by OpenID Connect, spec wise. The IndieWeb went with an alternative, but the use of the tech term superseding seemed out of place imho.
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tantek but we should continue to speak when something we develop supersedes other specs that we *tried*
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tantek or have KNOWN problems
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tantek e.g. MetaWeblog API requiring user/pass
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tantek we should not be shy about saying DO NOT USE MetaWeblog API (because it is *bad* for user security)
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tantek and say it is superseded by Micropub
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tantek or Webmention superseding Pingback
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tantek aaronpk - we should review any instances of superseded like that then
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tantek and assess them to see if they were based in implementation experience
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aaronpk Zegnat already fixed a couple
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tantek like?
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Zegnat OpenID and WebFinger I changed. Our tech is different and (possibly, probably) a better alternative, but I feel superseding was a weird word choice
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[kevinmarks] hm
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[kevinmarks] those are based on implementation experience
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Zegnat [kevinmarks], sure, but on any standards track, especially because of the tech meaning on the word supersede (which is often used when one spec obsoletes another), OpenID was not superseded by websignin, it was superseded by OpenID Connect.
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Zegnat I don’t think the IndieWeb movement (and thus wiki) should be calling out what tech is superseding what other tech *shrug*
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[kevinmarks] in practice, OpenID was superseded by "login with facebook"
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Zegnat aaronpk, tantek, I read you are going to take a look at Vidyo after Leaders? Should I stay on standbye for a test of cross-atlantic streaming?
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aaronpk Zegnat: we're getting info from the mozilla tech people tomorrow afternoon, not sure we'll have a chance then to test with you, also it will be kind of late (3pm pacific)
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Zegnat 1500 to 1600 would be 2400 to 0100 for me. That’s not a problem. I will be making my way onto a PDX schedule after Leaders anyway to attend the rest of IWS.
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Zegnat Eitherway, aaronpk, ping me if you want to run a test :)
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aaronpk okay. i'm not sure we'll have an opportunity to but we will see
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Zegnat If not then not, no harm done either way
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gRegorLove hahah
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Loqi rofl
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aaronpk this is getting to be a packed schedule
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tantek yes we're going to have "chair" the leaders summit quite efficiently
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tantek timeboxing things etc.
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aaronpk heh, started to write the email update for the leaders' summit and realize i don't have anyone's email addresses
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tantek did all the leaders indie RSVP?
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aaronpk i think i have everyone's email in tito, just not autocompleting from my gmail
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aaronpk only 5 of us in person?
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tantek correct. it was 6 but Salt can't make it.
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tantek however a lot in remote participation
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aaronpk yeah!
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aaronpk more remote than local!
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tantek indeed!
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Zegnat There is a lot of interest for meetups in Europe! Good to see that reflected in leaders participation
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tantek yes that's a good sign
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Zegnat aaronpk did adactio ever get back to you?
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aaronpk yes, he liekly won't be able to make it
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[kevinmarks] I'm going to be double booked as Rosie has a choir concert tomorrow
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Zegnat Aah, too bad.
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Zegnat Both about adactio and kevinmarks
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ben_thatmustbeme i'm taking the day off work
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ben_thatmustbeme so i'll be available
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[miklb] Looking for code examples of reactji if anyone has any. Hoping to get that working in WordPress this weekend.
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aaronpk [miklb]: you'll probably need either https://github.com/dissolve/single-emoji-recognizer or https://github.com/aaronpk/emoji-detector-php
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Loqi [dissolve] single-emoji-recognizer: determine if some text contains a single emoji or not. useful in determining if a reply is a "reacji" or actual text
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@benwerd @chrisaldrich @realkimhansen Maybe webmention a hub site? I think there's something to be said for setting up central topic-specific hubs. (twitter.com/_/status/878012916028514304)
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[miklb] aaronpk, oh, your library looks like it will make my life that much easier. I had glanced at dissolve’s library already, but it didn’t click on how to use it.
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schmarty thanks for the summit email, aaronpk ! i am on a flight to PDX now. planning to join for breakfast tomorrow.
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aaronpk Hooray!
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KartikPrabhu oh hey! FF fixed their grid bug :) https://kartikprabhu.com/static/demo/grid-flex.html shows up as intended now!
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KartikPrabhu earlier, the bottom row of images would overlap with the top ones
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[miklb] I remember looking at that.
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KartikPrabhu now I can try to use grid on my site :)
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kartikprabhu.com edited /2017/Schedule (+1) "/* Sunday */ convert 1:00 to 13:00 for consistency" (view diff)
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tantek evening