#dev 2017-06-27

2017-06-27 UTC
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raucao i don't remember the name of the nice dutch person who dialed into the location session yesterday, but if you're in this channel...
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raucao here's a working implementation of strava auth and activities for huginn https://github.com/skddc/huginn/commit/55960a2d6da7ef6a095554211829f606eae48913
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raucao i'm already syncing activities to my remotestorage account, but it'd be super easy to use the post agent to just post micropub from it to somewhere
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raucao would also be easy to add webmention support for kudos and comments based on the current code
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sknebel Zegnat ^^^
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sknebel (he's asleep, I'll make sure he sees it in the morning)
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raucao sure, thanks!
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aaronparecki.com edited /2017 (+784) "/* Planning */ planning notes" (view diff)
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk: regarding throttling salmention. My way of handling it is basically adding a layer of indirection. its kind of terrible that i have to do it, but basically i create a queue object in the DB that just has the post_id of what to send webmentions for, and put that on a delay of a few minutes. Then whenever a queue processes a job, it also deletes any other records with the same post_id from that table
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ben_thatmustbeme the subsequent job runs will fail as the object they refer to no longer exists
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aaronpk so you also delay sending webmentions?
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aaronpk how much?
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ben_thatmustbeme i haven't got it fully implemented yet in my laravel system, right now it doesn't delay. but they way i did it before i had it on a 5 minute delay
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ben_thatmustbeme well, for receiving updates was that delay. so i guess there wasn't really one on sending
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aaronpk i don't think i want to add a delay in sending webmentions, although i could see maybe adding a delay when sending an update webmention
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ben_thatmustbeme tries to think about it. actually, when i created a post there was no delay, but mention_send_queue was a thing, and it was on a 5 minute cron job
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ben_thatmustbeme its too late right now to think clearly
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, when i created a post, i sent right away, it was actually bad as i didn't queue at all
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ben_thatmustbeme i did it syncronously, which made my micropub endpoint super slow
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aaronpk oh yeah that would be slow
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aaronparecki.com edited /2017 (+158) "/* Planning */" (view diff)
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[miklb] GWG switching to -dev
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[miklb] GWG why not parse the DOM instead of regex?
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[miklb] apparently there’s also a get_meta_tags function in PHP. I did not know this.
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GWG miklb, the php function doesn't work.
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GWG I fixed it by checking it both ways for now
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GWG So now I can compose a preview to support manual PESOS
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gregorlove.com edited /2017 (+75) "/* Photos */ photosrcalt template to show up in newsletter" (view diff)
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GWG I think I found my problem. I don't support nested microformat properties from micropub.
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GWG [miklb]: That is why OYS doesn't work.
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[miklb] doesn’t work how? Not set a kind? That was the only real issue I found. If I manually set it to note, it seemed to be fine.
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GWG [miklb]: It will now be set. But snarfed set Micropub to override Post Kinds on presentation.
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GWG I want to take control back
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GWG I really wish micropub used jf2 instead of mf2
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Zegnat I see something about strava and location session and nice Dutch person. That must be sebsel, not me
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sknebel Zegnat: yes, sorry, half-asleep me got you two confused
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sknebel good morning btw
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sknebel (or rather, typed the wrong nick)
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cweiske why did you change your nick?
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sknebel ?
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cweiske didn't you have svenknebel first?
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sknebel no
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sknebel svenknebel.de is my primary domain
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sknebel but nick on IRC always has been sknebel
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petermolnar what is deviantart?
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Loqi deviantART is an art hosting silo that retains the rights to resell copyright of anything you post to it, without informing you, and has done so in the past https://indieweb.org/deviantART
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petermolnar tempted to include da on the list of least useful APIs provided
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cweiske because I saw something about "migrating karma" yesterday
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petermolnar hm... migrating to... you next life?
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petermolnar (sorry, morning, bad humour)
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cweiske no, it's fine :)
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cweiske https://chat.indieweb.org/2017-06-26/1498505022445000
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Loqi [Zegnat] sknebel++ converting karma from svenknebel
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sknebel ah
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sknebel someone got the nick wrong for whatever reason shortly before I think
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sknebel !tell aaronpk can you change the channel topic back? thx!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sebsel oh, messages for me. Thanks sknebel and Zegnat
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sebsel what is huginn?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/huginn
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seblog.nl edited /Strava (+175) "/* How to Export */ added Sebastian.kip.pe / raucao's work" (view diff)
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sebsel !tell raucao Thanks! :D I can't actually run Ruby on my server (shared host ftw), but I have a Raspberry Pi working for me at home, so maybe I can get that to work. It looks good!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sebsel Oh and I added it to the wiki, but yeah.
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Zegnat sebsel how does your nickcache handle display pictures? Do I need to bust your cache for my new photo to show up?
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sebsel Well, first you just couldn't. I store them by author-URL.
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sebsel But then OwnYourSwarm came by, with multiple possible pictures for webmentions (depending on the kind of coins Swarm gives you)
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sebsel So I fixed it to store on photo URL.
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sebsel (for completion of the logs: I suggested `/photo.jpg?v=timestamp` to bust the cache of chat.indieweb.org)
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Zegnat So if I reply to a thing on your site, you would also be showing my old display picture?
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sebsel I mean I should probably fix by site too, but ?v=time looks like a general solution, right? You'll bust browsercaches with it too
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Zegnat Hmm
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sebsel yes.
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sebsel at the moment
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Zegnat I’d much rather every cache naturally decides when to refetch than me busting
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sebsel But you just updated your picture and are complaining the caches don't go :P
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sebsel if you want to control that change, bust it.
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sebsel if not, let it be
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Zegnat True, I am mostly worried about incorrect caches that will never go and refetch ;)
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sebsel what is avatar?
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Loqi A profile photo is a photo or other image typically used to identify the author of a post https://indieweb.org/avatar
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sebsel I believe there are a bit more than 1 IndieWeb Example here
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sebsel but Zegnat, document your concerns :)
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Zegnat Most of it has been put under icon
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Zegnat what is icon?
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Loqi An icon in the context of the indieweb typically refers to a home page icon for an indieweb site https://indieweb.org/icon
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sebsel ah
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sebsel wow
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sebsel what is the difference?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "difference" yet. Would you like to create it?
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sebsel I would say at least 'avatar' and 'icon' are the same thing
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sebsel https://seblog.nl/2017/06/19/5/reply < I manually busted my cache for your photo ;)
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Zegnat The difference doesn’t really exist because we recommend your site only represents one person (yourself) and uses a photo of that person (your profile photo) as icon.
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Loqi [Sebastiaan Andeweg] ?
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Zegnat Multi-author sites would have a different go at icon vs photo
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sebsel hm, when looking at the code examples they are different
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sebsel <link rel="icon"> vs <img class="u-photo">
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Zegnat Well, yes, but my u-photo is the same URL as my rel-icon.
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sebsel mine too
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Zegnat And that goes for a lot of us.
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sebsel but I once had a different one, really an icon
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sebsel and now that I think of it I might want that back :P
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vanderven.se martijn edited /nicknames-cache (+424) "/* Discussion */ Keeping it from going stale." (view diff)
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Zegnat sebsel, documented ^^^
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@ShilkaPub How to Carry Your Book Cover Design Through to the Marketing Campaign for Your Self-published Books http://selfpublishingadvice.org/how-to-carry-your-book-cover-design-through-to-the-marketing-campaign-for-your-self-published-books/ via @IndieAuth… (twitter.com/_/status/879657569622659072)
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sebsel eh, Zegnat, what has nicknames-cache to do with your profile picture?
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Zegnat That page specifically addresses caching photos
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Zegnat https://indieweb.org/nicknames-cache#Better_Person_Icon_Display
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Zegnat Only place on the wiki to talk about caching photos, as far as I could find.
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sebsel hm, okay
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sebsel for me, photo's of people who mentioned me and my nicknames-cache are two totally separate things
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Zegnat caching it for mentions should be fine though, that is the image they had at the time of the mention. As long as you fetch the new one for newer mentions.
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sebsel uhu, which I don't.
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sebsel but that sounds reasonable, so I should.
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sknebel that's one of the things we discussed as ideas for how to start integrating IPFS at IWC Berlin – distributed avatar cache
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sebsel I cache h-cards for mentioned people at the time I mention them, btw
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sknebel because the content-based name makes total sense for that
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sebsel that sounds cool
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sknebel but IPFS still doesn't have a (to me) convincing transparent upgrade story for use in browsers, and just for the backend, ehh
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sknebel their browser story is "you can run IPFS over WebRTC", but I don't want to force that on my visitors! I'd want them to totally opt in e.g. by installing a browser plugin
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petermolnar IPFS nearly got my server at hetzner blocked; by default it's incredibly agressive on network scanning for sibling nodes
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Zegnat I could do content-based names for my display pictures. Concat on the date the photo was taken. That is what barnaby (waterpigs.co.uk) does, as the only listed example on /profile_photo
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Zegnat But I would rather swap out the old with a new.
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sknebel I think it's fine to let consumers deal with it
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Zegnat That’s what I think, sknebel. But now wondering if we should document some common pitfalls.
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sknebel ok, your webserver does ETAG, so there is no cache time issue
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sknebel (which otherwise could be, people might by default say that images can be cached 30 days)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /IFTTT (+188) "/* Self-hosted (open source) */ Some others I ran into." (view diff)
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sebsel hm, I was wondering if OwnYourSwarm can also set a location on my posts (there is a location in the checkin-property, but that's the venue's location) but it seems like there is non in the API :(
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sebsel on for instance a park, my checkin can be at a more specific spot than the point they chose for the venue
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sebsel but oh well
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sknebel does swarm record that?
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sknebel or do you have external location logs?
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sebsel Foursquare has it, because if you review an edit of the location of the venue they show dots of where most people checkin from
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sebsel no I think I'm just going to infer it from the checkin location. If no location on post, check venue.
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sebsel but not storing it that way, just using it that way
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petermolnar I combined https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gaugler.backitude with syncthing and now I'm happy having location logs, aaronpk-style
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petermolnar for my surprise it's not even draining my battery as bad as I expected
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sknebel petermolnar: cool, will try that app when travelling soon (battery has been an issue with logging for me)
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sknebel sebsel: seems like the location is only provided by the API if you post a "shout" or a venueless checking
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petermolnar for me too, with most of the apps. now I have this: http://amzn.to/2tg5s8M with that app and my phone lasts for 2 days when used :D
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sebsel sknebel yeah, I read that. I have NO idea how to post either of those on Swarm, I can only find checkins with venue.
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sebsel And it was also not where I was looking for, because I want it on the checkins with venue too :P
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sebsel petermolnar that was a returning theme last weekend in the Location Location Location session I remote-attended: think of something cool and aaronpk has done it
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Zegnat That app looks interesting petermolnar, I might give that a shot too.
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Zegnat grant.codes seemed to be having some good results with owntracks
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sebsel https://indiechat.search.cweiske.de/?q=nick%3Aaaronpk+%22i+use%22 < maybe I should subscribe to that
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petermolnar owntracks was eating my battery like mad
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petermolnar it's a brilliant app, but a; it needs internet, b; it consumes orders of magnitude more energy compared to backtitude c; can't 'steal' location from other apps
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Zegnat “‘steal’ location”?
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petermolnar as far as I understand, getting gps data is exclusive, meaning an app locks it when it's requesting
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petermolnar however, android has a cache on this and if an app can't get the lock, it should fall back to "stealing" location data
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petermolnar most of them doesn't
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Zegnat Interesting
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Zegnat How often do you poll?
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petermolnar I might be mistaken though
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petermolnar I've lowered it to 5mins
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petermolnar but that's recent
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petermolnar it used to be 10 mins
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petermolnar also, backtitude can run on ancient devices (2.2 android)
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Zegnat I think I’ll go try it out. I have thought about just carrying a second phone that only does location, to spare charge on my main phone.
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petermolnar so you can get one of your ancient phones hooked up to a car battery in your backpack and make it your location logger :)
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Zegnat sknebel, all the links on my homepage are WCAG AA now in non-hovered state, can you read the pink now? http://vanderven.se/martijn/
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Loqi Martijn van der Ven
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sknebel Zegnat: yes, that works, even with fairly low color temp
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Zegnat ?
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cweiske sebsel, I want to have subscriptions myself
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cweiske maybe I should provide a websub endpoint for phinde
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sebsel oh, that could end in IRC notifications via websub
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loqi.me edited /WCAG (+47) "sknebel added "http://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net (+41) "sknebel added "update /topic in irc with stream link?" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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sebsel what is accessibility?
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Loqi Accessibility is the practice of designing so that people with disabilities can have equal access to information and functionality, applicable to both websites as well as physical environments https://indieweb.org/accessibility
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sebsel Maybe also include it there somehow? Better accessible than 'WCAG' ;)
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sknebel sebsel: all on there already
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sebsel ok
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sknebel WCAG << [[accessibility]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[accessibility]]" to the "See Also" section of /WCAG
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aaronpk What is WCAG?
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Loqi aaronpk: sknebel left you a message 6 hours, 9 minutes ago: can you change the channel topic back? thx!
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Loqi WCAG is Web Content Accessibility Guidelines, see https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/ https://indieweb.org/WCAG
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aaronpk sknebel: I thought anyone can change the topic here? If not, I will adjust the channel modes to allow that
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sknebel aaronpk: no, opers only
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Zegnat there is a channel mode to allow topic edits by all?
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@voxpelli @manton2 Nice, lovely to see some iOS Micropub apps! Any chance you could wrap up some of the IndieAuth stuff and s… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/879697372602912768 (twitter.com/_/status/879697372602912768)
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sknebel Zegnat: other way round - +t means only opers are allowed to do it
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GWG Morning all
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Zegnat sknebel, interesting, guess every server I have even been too has defaulted to +t then
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sknebel aaronpk: ^^^ -t is what you want to set then
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sebsel morning GWG!
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@derhess Homebrew #Website Club Meetup in #Berlin tomorrow! Come & join our #Webmention session! https://sebastiangreger.net/2017/06/homebrew-website-club-berlin-10-on-28-jun-2017/ and https://www.meetup.com/de-DE/Indie-Web-Homebrew-Website-Club/events/240506908/ (twitter.com/_/status/879699385596215296)
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miklb.com edited /discuss (+230) "/* Chat */ How-to on Slack (needs wikifying)" (view diff)
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petermolnar maybe the wiki edit messages should to to -meta
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[miklb] +1
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ben_thatmustbeme this was discussed actually
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sknebel yeah, we decided against it
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ben_thatmustbeme though a lot of time wiki edits are actually dev related
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petermolnar then I still don't understand what -meta is for
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ben_thatmustbeme technically, this conversation
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ben_thatmustbeme :P
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ben_thatmustbeme anything about the wiki, community, chat, etc
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[eddie] meta all the meta ?
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petermolnar anything about the wiki < edits?!
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ben_thatmustbeme meta all the things!
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4p4D4xe1.jpg
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[miklb] about the wiki, just not the wiki. Got it.
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sknebel that's not discussion about the wiki tho
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ben_thatmustbeme edits are content changes
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ben_thatmustbeme moving convo to #meta :P
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tantek what is autosuggest
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Loqi autosuggest (AKA auto-suggest) is a user-interface feature that provides a list of options while the user is typing, related to what the user has typed, possibly beyond mere (sub)string matches https://indieweb.org/autosuggest
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: ^^^
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ben_thatmustbeme oh interesting
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ben_thatmustbeme contacts << [[autosuggest]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[autosuggest]]" to the "See Also" section of /contacts
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[kevinmarks] WCAG << https://www.wired.com/2016/10/how-the-web-became-unreadable/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.wired.com/2016/10/how-the-web-became-unreadable/" to the "See Also" section of /WCAG
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[kevinmarks] autosuggest << http://leaverou.github.io/awesomplete/
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Loqi ok, I added "http://leaverou.github.io/awesomplete/" to the "See Also" section of /autosuggest
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[kevinmarks] Someone asked me for command line posting to svgshare.com - should I give it a micropub endpoint?
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aaronpk with no authentication?
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aaronpk i'd say at least make the vocab the same
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gRegorLove I use a different /icon for my site vs my /avatar
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[kevinmarks] Hm. I could issue tokens I suppose. The current one is hard to script because it uses Google's upload api, which generates post endpoints that expire
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[kevinmarks] I did add login so I could do nipsa
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aaronpk you can always shortcut the indieauth step and just show a micropub access token to people after they log in
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aaronpk that'll make an API work, but you wouldn't be able to log in to quill for example
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[kevinmarks] It's appengine login, which is basically Google login
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@WendyandCharles ReadersGazette: BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.thejugglingauthor.com/indieauth/ Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 65 (twitter.com/_/status/879684291424382976)
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tantek oh hey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebSub got moved/renamed (to that name) from PubSubHubbub
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tantek now the article copy just needs updating accordingly
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tantek if anyone wants a few easy wikipedia clean-up edits
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gRegorLove tantek: Done
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ben_thatmustbeme pushed a few more updates to Selfauth
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ben_thatmustbeme it should actually handle authorization in addition to authentication now
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ben_thatmustbeme "in theory" anyway, i have yet to fully test it
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aaronpk Wonder if there's a way to build a webmention app for this https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/27/cloudflare-launches-cloudflare-apps-platform-and-100m-fund-from-investors/
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aaronpk wouldn't it be awesome to have a checkbox to turn on webmention receiving in cloudflare?
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Zegnat Run a personal webmention.io copy but on cloudflare’s servers?
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ben_thatmustbeme huh? trying to figure out how exactly that would work
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ben_thatmustbeme oh, i see
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calumryan.com edited /events/2017-06-28-homebrew-website-club (+38) "/* London */ Cancelled" (view diff)
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calumryan.com edited /Events (+499) "/* July */ Meet the TAG in London event added" (view diff)
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calumryan.com edited /Events (-24) "/* July */ Style change" (view diff)
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Zegnat gRegorLove did you meant to send 2 webmentions to my blog post?
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gRegorLove Yeah, messed it up first time
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gRegorLove Might have sent 3, actually.
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Zegnat Received 2.
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Zegnat Would have caught it earlier, but apparently my mail notifications are down again :/
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gRegorLove Oh, do you get an email for each wm?
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aaronpk uhoh, got an email about upcoming foursquare api changes
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kongaloosh.com created /events/2017-07-04-homebrew-website-club (+1532) "Created page with "== Details == === What === * <span class="u-url url u-uid uid">https://indieweb.org/events/2017-06-06-homebrew-website-club</span> <div class="p-description description"> '''[ht..."" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+98) "/* Bellingham */ meeting regularly, venue" (view diff)
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kongaloosh.com edited /events/2017-07-04-homebrew-website-club (+0) "/* Details */" (view diff)
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KartikPrabhu who is eddie?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Eddiehinkle.com
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Zegnat gRegorLove, I *used to* get emails for each webmention, haha. But yes. That’s the simplest (and best for me) way of notification
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Loqi hehe
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[miklb] aaronpk bad news for OwnYourSwarm?
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aaronpk no idea yet
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aaronpk they just say there will be "significant improvements" coming
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[miklb] let’s just hope by improvements they don’t mean “more walled garden like Instagram.”
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gRegorLove * "improvements for us, not for you" ;)
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KartikPrabhu sketchess: welcome :)
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sketchess thank you Kartik
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sketchess so how do I connect tags in style?
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KartikPrabhu you'd have to write some CSS to display them on the same line
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KartikPrabhu what tags are you using?
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sketchess I didn't find out yet.
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sketchess background color and indent
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sketchess How is the space to be filled?
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KartikPrabhu sketchess: it would be good for me to see an example markup
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sketchess a line of code or online live?
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KartikPrabhu sketchess: either one, live is better so I can test it out in a browser
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sketchess style="text-indent:20px" , style="background-color:#999;"
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sketchess to get to my space would take a little
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KartikPrabhu sketchess: yea those seem to be correct
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sketchess yeah each alone no prob, but one gets currently dropped on second base
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Zegnat I would move that into a CSS file though, instead of having style attributes on all elements. Will be easier to keep an overview
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[shanehudson] codepen.io is a good place to put code examples for us to help with ?
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sketchess I need it only on one. the body
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[shanehudson] Having two style attributes on one element will override one of them
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[shanehudson] (I think, anyway)
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KartikPrabhu sketchess: yes, the tags are not being aligned because you haven't set those CSS properties. This is where a live example would be useful
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Zegnat Yeah, [shanehudson] is right, you can only have 1 style attribute per tag.
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Zegnat so either style="text-indent:20px;background-color:#999" or create a CSS file so you can space it out nicely
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gRegorLove text-indent won't change how two block level elements normally appear horizontally (on top of each other)
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gRegorLove e.g. if you have two <div> elements you want to appear side by side
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sketchess does a happy dance
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Zegnat admits that he would not be able to guess what effect text-indent on BODY has on block elements inside
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sketchess thank you Zegnat
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sketchess You gave me the last 2 rule I didn't know.
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sketchess I try that out.
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sketchess yes yes yes
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gRegorLove woot!
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Loqi giggles
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sketchess Zegnat++
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loqi.me edited /authorship (+37) "Zegnat added "https://sturdy-backbone.glitch.me/" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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sketchess Nice. I can develop further now on a readable and right colored environment. It is amazing how two little tags can change a whole world.
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loqi.me edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net (+103) "sknebel added "sknebel, another feature request, for Kaja now! Be able to append to a Inbox section on a user page." to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek alright, trying my first manual event POSSE to FB, with the hopes of setting it up so that I get Bridgy RSVPs
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tantek my understanding is that Bridgy backfeed only works on 1) public events, 2) events created by your *personal* account (i.e. not by the "IndieWeb" page)
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tantek "Event Host"
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tantek this is interesting - if I choose "IndieWeb" as "Event Host", it auto-fills the "Event Photo"!
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4p4eRzaV.jpg
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tantek darn it Loqi, that's not memeworthy
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tantek aaronpk, may need to restrict the regex on that one a bit
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tantek alright I'm going to choose "IndieWeb" as host and see if there's a way to make that work
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ben_thatmustbeme Lol, interesting meme
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tantek I can't find the duplicate event feature - did FB remove it?
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tantek found it, thanks to our docs and screenshot! https://indieweb.org/create#Duplicate_Event
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KartikPrabhu documentation++
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tantek ugh
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tantek "Something went wrong, please try again later."
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tantek.com edited /create (+302) "/* Facebook Events */ FB Something went wrong error" (view diff)
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tantek duplicating a work failed (like 10 times), so I just gave up and created a new one https://www.facebook.com/events/120457305222422
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tantek not sure why duplicate was failing
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tantek.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+385) "/* Structure */ update FB post event instructions" (view diff)
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@EddieHinkle @manton2 @voxpelli My IndieAuth work is available over here: https://github.com/EdwardHinkle/swift-IndieAuth (twitter.com/_/status/879843610660917248)
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