#dev 2017-07-15

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@WendyandCharles
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ReadersGazette: BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.thejugglingauthor.com/indieauth/ Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 29
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eBooksHabit: Merfolk, media & military collide in this thrilling #UrbanFantasy series #Merfolk #Mermaid #IndieAuth… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/886059261935202305
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[miklb]
starting to get stockholm syndrome from that link and want to google merfolk
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petermolnar
morning all; is it just me or is this a weird mf markup on this site? http://www.pandemia.info/2017/07/14/bookmarks-favs-likes-backfilling-years-of-gaps/
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Loqi
[Luca Conti] Bookmarks, favs, likes – backfilling years of gaps
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Zegnat
perks up at “weird mf markup” and goes look
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Loqi
[Luca Conti] Bookmarks, favs, likes – backfilling years of gaps
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Loqi
[Luca Conti] Bookmarks, favs, likes – backfilling years of gaps
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Zegnat
You might expect a u-like-of there
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Zegnat
Is that what you meant? Otherwise it is pretty straight forward
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petermolnar
there is no e-content
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petermolnar
I wonder how the php parser gets the content
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petermolnar
also noticed that many WP sites, which enabled a few indie plugins, are ending up including related, also on, etc. stuff in the content
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petermolnar
which is a bit annoying
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petermolnar
I might just include 'entry-content' to be searched for among some others
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Zegnat
It uses entry-content, which is old mf
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Loqi
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Zegnat
It is one example where there is probably some plugin used for the like-of, maybe postkinds or something (ask -wordpress), but the theme itself is still mf1.
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petermolnar
my problem was that it has an e-summary
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petermolnar
but that's the quote from me
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petermolnar
so it was confusing
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petermolnar
(on other notes: I got 200 lines off my CSS)
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Zegnat
well, the e-summary is nested on the h-cite, so that’s a completely separate mf object
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Zegnat
You can’t just look for e-summary and assume that it is for the post
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petermolnar
I can, of course, but the assumption indeed might be wrong
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Zegnat
s/can’t/shan’t/
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Defenestrate
so indiewebdevs, anyone been through The Odin Project here?
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petermolnar
what is The Odin Project?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "The Odin Project" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Defenestrate
The Odin Project is a free online bootcamp that teaches full stack web dev with Ruby on Rails.
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Defenestrate
I dedicated 3 months to it late last year
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Defenestrate
it's one of the best resources for learning web dev ive eer come across
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petermolnar
RoR is out of my interest to be honest; Python, PHP, bash, C and (due to work) Perl is enough
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petermolnar
if anything, I'd love to learn Ada
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Zegnat
I have done client work with RoR once and didn’t like it. Don’t see myself going back to it.
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Defenestrate
yes i ended up hating RoR, but it still taught me all the fundamentals of webdev in a practical manner
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Zegnat
Why didn’t Loqi add it to the wiki?
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Zegnat
The Odin Project is a free online bootcamp that teaches full stack web dev with [[Ruby on Rails]].
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Zegnat
Hhrrmm.
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petermolnar
I'd guess Defenestrate has never signed in to the wiki before
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petermolnar
what is The Odin Project?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "The Odin Project" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Defenestrate
no that was my first message ^
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Zegnat
The Odin Project is a free online bootcamp that teaches full stack web dev with [[Ruby on Rails]].
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Zegnat
Still nothing petermolnar.
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petermolnar
interesting
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Zegnat
Defenestrate, we are trying to learn our chatbot what the odin project is
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Zegnat
I’ll just add to the wiki manually
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Defenestrate
oh right i didnt understand what was going on
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Zegnat
Sorry
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vanderven.se martijn
created /The_Odin_Project (+187) "Created page with "{{stub}} '''<dfn>[https://www.theodinproject.com/ The Odin Project]</dfn>''' is a set of free online courses to learn people about web development, based on a [[Ruby on Rails]] ...""
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Zegnat
See if I did it right.
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Zegnat
What is The Odin Project?
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Loqi
The Odin Project is a set of free online courses to learn people about web development, based on a Ruby on Rails back-end https://indieweb.org/The_Odin_Project
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Zegnat
Hmm, I don’t like how the Odin Project does backend before frontend. But that might be a personal preference, as I started with 100% frontend and watched as PHP includes gained traction
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petermolnar
I started from the other way
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petermolnar
so I'm biased to backend first
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Defenestrate
for me it didnt matter because i just needed a learning structure. some path to adhere to. i found getting started in webdev really overwhelming otherwise. now im much better at self-learning and a lot of that knowledge of learning how to learn came from ToP
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Zegnat
Defenestrate if you have a blog post about your experience I’d love to read that and link to it on the indieweb wiki :)
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Defenestrate
unfortunately i don't, but i was planning to write up something at the end of this year.. i should check out this wiki though
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Zegnat
You definitely should if you :) And join the #indieweb channel if you want to discuss
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Defenestrate
so what is this channel then?
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Defenestrate
there's another indieweb chan?
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petermolnar
there are 4: #indieweb generic discussion for https://indieweb.org #indieweb-dev for development heavy things #indieweb-wordpress for WordPress specific things and #indieweb-chat for offtopic
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Defenestrate
thanks
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Zegnat
There is just no way I am ever going to get events posts working correctly on my current site :/ Ugh.
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sknebel
Zegnat: why not?
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Zegnat
I will have to change my database schema and then change all my views
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Zegnat
My data storage is ... bad. But I never planned to rewrite it because of my activity feed site work that would replace the entire thing in the future anyway
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Zegnat
starts randomly running SQL
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sknebel
ah, ok
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sknebel
you could probably patch a bunch of exceptions for events in, or even create them as static files for now ;)
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@GrowWP
What the New Webmention and Annotation W3C Standards Mean for WordPress | https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/webmentions-annotations-web-standards/ #wp
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What the New Webmention and Annotation W3C Standards Mean for WordPress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/webmentions-annotations-web-standards/
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Zegnat
I just hacked it into my db layer. I am afraid to touch it anymore though, hahaha
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Loqi
nice
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@dbtheming
What the New Webmention and Annotation W3C Standards Mean for WordPress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/webmentions-annotations-web-standards/ #wordpress
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What the New Webmention and Annotation W3C Standards Mean for WordPress - #WP #Wordpress - https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/webmentions-annotations-web-standards/
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sknebel
and goot morning twitter bots it seems
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@gtpintado
What the New Webmention and Annotation W3C Standards Mean for WordPress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/webmentions-annotations-web-standards/ #WordPress #CMS
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sknebel
wait, that hypothesis plugin doesn't use the W3C stuff, does it? gonna have a look at that later
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@wpdailybits
What the New Webmention and Annotation W3C Standards Mean for WordPress https://wpdailybits.com/what-the-new-webmention-and-annotation-w3c-standards-mean-for-wordpress/ #annotations #comments
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@Element321
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@Beepop_Agency
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What the New Webmention and Annotation W3C Standards Mean for WordPress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/webmentions-annotations-web-standards/ #WordPress
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@WordPressRebel
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Zegnat
fingers crossed as I overwrite my entire blog database layer
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sknebel
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@PixelboxUK
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[kevinmarks]
What do they mean for twitter botstorms though?
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sknebel
I kind of suspect the annotation plugins presented also don't have anything to do with the W3C standards
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@debiluck
What the New Webmention and Annotation W3C Standards Mean for WordPress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/webmentions-annotations-web-standards/
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@wppluginsforyou
What the New Webmention and Annotation W3C Standards Mean for WordPress #wordpressnews https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/webmentions-annotations-web-standards/
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Zegnat
Should probably block tweets when the exact same content is coming in within X seconds?
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Zegnat
Alright, I think I have events working! https://licit.li/596a1ac68a9b8
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Zegnat
If anyone has any comments on the markup, let me know :)
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petermolnar
Zegnat eons ago I wanted to rewrite my cms, so I spent a hell lot of a time designing a db for it; in the end, I realized, I reinvented the db layout of WordPress, so I started using WordPress :D
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petermolnar
if I look at the wordpress db today, it's terrible by today's eyes: there should be a db abstraction layer, cascading foreign innodb keys, maybe even some logic in the db
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petermolnar
but 10 years ago it was reasonable, especially compared drupal 6 (brrr)
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[kevinmarks]
That's the pre-filled in text from their tweet button
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@WP_Discounts
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created /indie_event (+18) "prompted by Zegnat and dfn added by Zegnat"
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aaronpk
whoaaaaa
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drewinthehead
After quite a bit of head scratching, got webmentions implemented for Perch, e.g. on this page of my blog: https://allinthehead.com/retro/377/using-gravatar-as-a-spam-indicator
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Loqi
[Drew McLellan] Using Gravatar as a Spam Indicator
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drewinthehead
The trickiest part was the workflow around updating - something that doesn't really exist with comments-of-old. Well, that and testing.
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GWG
drewinthehead: That is an interesting idea
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GWG
The Gravatar thing
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drewinthehead
GWG: yeah, it works really well. Could probably build in auto-moderation using the 'default' arg, come to think of it.:)
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GWG
drewinthehead: There's also always Vouch, but that isn't widespread yet
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@MetroDetroitWP
RT @LireoDesigns: What the New Webmention and Annotation W3C Standards Mean for WordPress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/webmentions-annotations-web-standards/
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sknebel
ok, that _WPTips account clearly is spam, with the advertisement for other tools in front of the copied text
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[chrisaldrich]
drewinthehead++ for webmentions in Perch!
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Loqi
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[chrisaldrich]
what is Perch?
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Loqi
Perch and Perch Runway are a content management systems based on PHP+MySQL https://indieweb.org/Perch
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[chrisaldrich]
drewinthehead, do you have an open plugin version that others could utilize?
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petermolnar
still noising
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(yes, I know that is not a verb)
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aaronpk
hey i blocked that account
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@ChrisAldrich
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@ChrisAldrich
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