#dev 2018-01-07
2018-01-07 UTC
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# created /User:Davidpeach.me (+216) "Created page with "Hi there! I'm back on the indieweb at last. I have previously used chegalabonga as my handle but have just grabbed a new domain. In the process of setting up my new site the..."" ( view diff)
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# @misuba @pfrazee I wonder what gave you the impression SoLiD folks like Webmention. I like Webmention, but I'm not actually a SoLiD person (despite having coined the name and working in the same office). ( twitter.com/_/status/950014487570075650)
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# @markboulton @rachelandrew I am confused by Webmention. In this case it seems to make commenting much less inclusive, and also results in an inability to have discussions in comments… or am I misunderstanding the concept? ( twitter.com/_/status/950049268663898112)
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# @markboulton I debated using Webmentions but ultimately decided no comments this time. Let people respond thoughtfully with a post of their own. Bring blogging back. :-) ( twitter.com/_/status/950067527958200320)
# @shiflett @markboulton that’s what a webmention is – a post on my blog in reply to someone else’s post. Just like how I’m using my site to create this reply that goes to Twitter. ( twitter.com/_/status/950074698041356290)
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# @shiflett @markboulton if they respond with a post of their own, that's exactly what webmention is for - telling you that they have done so. ( twitter.com/_/status/950076910993858561)
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# @markboulton I bet we might be hungry for real debate in comments now. We aren’t having those conversations on Twitter anymore. We miss them. Webmentions is cool, but requiring people to blog in order to comment adds friction. We moved to Twitter because it reduced friction. ( twitter.com/_/status/950079595688153088)
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# Just spent twenty minutes reading through the Webmention docs etc.
1. Better have an actual server; as with other comment approaches, static sites are a non-starter (no surprise, and fair).
2. It’s way too hard for most people to set up.
Indie web needs better tools and UX. ( twitter.com/_/status/950083608378728448)
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# @chriskrycho there are solutions for static sites - I use https://webmention.herokuapp.com/ for http://kevinmarks.com but yes it is too hard at the moment ( twitter.com/_/status/950086677913055232)
# @chriskrycho usability is absolutely a top priority we need to keep improving!
...having said that, specs aren't for end users. tools and services are. we have a number that provide webmentions with little to no effort or expertise, including @microdotblog, @withknown, and @WordPress. ( twitter.com/_/status/950087034290384896)
# @chriskrycho @microdotblog @withknown @WordPress static sites too! https://indieweb.org/static_site
hell, even hosted blog silos like @tumblr, @wordpressdotcom, and @Blogger can do webmentions: https://brid.gy/about#blogs ( twitter.com/_/status/950087666392956929)
# @chriskrycho Beginners don't usually use static sites and with WordPress, setting up webmentions is no too hard. There are solutions for static sites, but they require an always-on receiver which they can query on build time - this is what I'm doing as well. ( twitter.com/_/status/950087698303406085)
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