#dev 2018-01-29

2018-01-29 UTC
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[eddie] Phew! Apple approved Indigenous 0.2.1 for Beta!
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[eddie] TestFlights notifications should be going out. Now that I have a good foundation for Indigenous, I’m planning to do shorter release improvements rather than a big restructuring like what happened between the last beta and this beta
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[eddie] So expect small incremental updates from here until it’s public release
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eli_oat wicked excited to see what you've been up too!
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eli_oat (continually refreshes testflight)
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[eddie] dgold: should be there now
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[eddie] oops! haha
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Loqi hehe
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[eddie] eli_oat I mean
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eli_oat[m] Got it!
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eli_oat[m] eddie: how does the app grab a list of past posts? RSS?
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aaronpk Whoa this is so cool
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aaronpk Just realized I want to set an ordering of the channels now
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[eddie] Yeah that’s something I want to add into the next build of indigenous that will be stored locally. Of course if we add that to Microsub, then eventually it can persist that via Microsub. But I am definitely gonna have to add ordering locally in indigenous, because my order is driving me crazy haha
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[eddie] eli_oat[m]: sorry what do you mean by past posts?
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[cleverdevil] eddie I mentioned this over in #indieweb, but the update can’t seem to authenticate with my site.
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[eddie] cleverdevil That is strange! Where does it stop>
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[cleverdevil] I type in my domain, then it takes me there, I tap on my website's "Authorize" button, and then it takes me straight back to the Indigenous screen where I have to login with my domain.
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[cleverdevil] I can add you a user on my site, if that helps 🙂
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[eddie] Yeah, that helps 🙂 That will allow me to debug what the code is doing
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[cleverdevil] Email?
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[cleverdevil] n/m, h-card FTW.
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[cleverdevil] Sending now.
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tantek good evening #indieweb-dev
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tantek once again, bad robots started eating 95% of my bandwidth total, starting 2018-01-12
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tantek two more IP addresses with same Class C subnet as two that I had banned before
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tantek tempted to ban the whole Class C
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KartikPrabhu what's class C ?
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jjuran KartikPrabhu: A network whose mask is 255.255.255.0
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KartikPrabhu hmm
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@t 2017-12-15 was XFN’s 14th. While #IndieAuth / Web Signin #decentralized identity via XFN rel=me continues to grow, in 2017 @aaronpk wrote IndieAuth into a proper spec, published just last week by @W3C @SocialWebWG https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/NOTE-indieauth-20180123/ Previously: http://tantek.com/t4se3 (twitter.com/_/status/957874302904397824)
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petermolnar https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!msg/ct-policy/sz_3W_xKBNY/6jq2ghJXBAAJ - TL;DR: all certificates issued after April 2018 need to be in Certificate Transparency (CT), otherwise Chrome will not trust them.
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petermolnar I'm getting a tad annoyed at google
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Zegnat Doesn’t that just mean they are cracking down even harder on self-signed, but nothing else really changes?
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Zegnat Presumably CAs will quickly make sure everything gets registered in CT
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@decadecity ☑️ Webmention display. Where enabled, interactions on Twitter now show up on my blog posts. (With a delay, it relies on batch processing schedules.) e.g: https://decadecity.net/blog/2018/01/18/reading-long-form-content#mentions (twitter.com/_/status/957914968720072705)
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[kevinmarks] Why is CT annoying?
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petermolnar because it's yet another google enforced "safeguard"
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sknebel I think its fair to call it a safeguard without scare quotes
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dgold isn't the issue that at least one CA, allegedly working with a state actor, issued certificates for hundreds of sites, permitting MITM attacks?
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dgold i'm unsure why the proposal by Google here is A Bad Thing
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petermolnar the proposal, no, driven by google, I'm a bit afraid
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petermolnar but let's hope there won't be any issues
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sknebel I haven't seen much of objections by other organisations in the ecosystem. and there's not many orgs that can drive something like this
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[kevinmarks] Part of the point of CT is that it replaces a cabal of browsers maintaining an opaque ban list with a public record, isn't it?
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dgold i'm interested in seeing what indigenous does as a reader, but are there any well-known implementations of a back of end for it?
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aaronpk the idea is any Microsub server is a backend to it. Right now I think Monocle is the only one
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aaronpk I still consider Monocle in very early stages so i'm not opening up accounts on my instance, and I'm also not writing up guides on how to install it from source. if you want, you can figure it out. but I would rather people write more Microsub servers than just use mine
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aaronpk #how-to-avoid-a-monoculture :)
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snarfed aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 111 karma in this channel (1554 overall)
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Zegnat multiculture-through-undocumentation
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Zegnat Working on any interesting -dev projects today jeremycherfas?
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jeremych_ Sort of. Just learned about the One Giant Text File approach to things, so building workflows to let me add journal entries to a text file in nvALT.
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Zegnat Interesting
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aaronpk [eddie] did you have any luck with the Overland app UI?
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jeremych_ zegnat by stealing bits here and there I have a bash script that works,. In an Automator service that works. Now it would be nice to find a keyboard shortcut I am not using and work out why Enter does not automatically close the text input box.
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dgold jeremych_: One Giant Text File?
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jeremych_ Yeah. In the middle of a write-up. Hang on.
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dgold :)
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dgold re keyboard-shortcut - Hyper Key
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dgold ykims
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jeremych_ Er, wot?
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dgold there's been a chat about it over on micro.blog - remapping the CapsLock key to shift-ctrl-alt-cmd
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KartikPrabhu remapping keys in an application to do funny things is going to be very confusing for users
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jeremych_ Oh yes, I remember. What I want is a keyboard way to press OK on an Automator text input box.
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jeremych_ --> #chat
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snarfed ScalaWilliam: hi! just fyi, this post of yours is a bit broken: https://www.scalawilliam.com/unit-testing-is-simple/
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Loqi [William Narmontas] Unit testing is simple
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[eddie] aaronpk: Almost done. I’ll send the PR shortly
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aaronpk ooh
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aaronpk [eddie]++
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[cleverdevil] eddie did you get the invitation to my site?
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[eddie] aaronpk: I think there might be something wrong with my copy of Overland. Maybe something wrong with cocoapods? CMMotionActivity *activity = [GLManager sharedManager].lastMotion; is returning nil
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[eddie] Even when I do a “Freeway Drive” location test with Xcode
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aaronpk I think that's correct in the simulator
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[eddie] oh really? Okay, I’ll try deploy to my device then
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aaronpk the simulator isn't very good at simulating the location APIs
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[eddie] ohhhh gotcha
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[eddie] https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-F8ZPMSKJ4/screen_shot_2018-01-29_at_2.17.51_pm.png?pub_secret=8815b53bcd&name=Screen Shot 2018-01-29 at 2.17.51 PM.png Right now if it returns nil, it turns the label into an empty string resulting in this gap in the bottom right. Do you want to have some sort of default text there if it’s nil? Or is nil not normal in a normal device use?
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aaronpk IIRC the real API always returns something
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[eddie] cleverdevil Yep. I’ve got the account registered and I was able to verify your same error on my device. I need to run through the login process on my mac in debug mode.
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aaronpk at least most of the time
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[eddie] ahh, gotcha :thumbsup:
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[eddie] no worries, then.
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[cleverdevil] Awesome, that's great news, eddie.
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[cleverdevil] Let me know if you need any more help/detail.
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[cleverdevil] I am running the latest Known from master.
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[eddie] Great, Thanks. I should have more info here shortly.
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[eddie] Darn you iPhone X notch!!! lol. I had it all perfect, and then the iPhone X notch messed it all up.
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[eddie] Alright, we’re almost back in business
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[cleverdevil] 😄
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aaronpk lol
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[eddie] aaronpk: Is the storyboard new or has it been around for awhile?
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aaronpk a while
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[eddie] The iPhone 4s scrollview seems wonky so I wasn’t sure if that’s something that is important and/or if I messed it up or if it was already wonky
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[eddie] 5s*
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aaronpk you probably didn't mess anything up :P
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[eddie] okay :thumbsup:
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aaronpk I barely know what i'm doing in there
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[eddie] Alrighty, we can fix that in the future then if the 5s isn’t a big concern
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aaronpk yeah I barely have any users anyway, so i'm not super concerned about the 5s :D
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[eddie] 😆 fair enough
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Zegnat Not sure through who I found this, but interesting, browsers block rendering on print stylesheets so you might want to move the LINK element to the end of your page: https://www.nccgroup.trust/uk/about-us/newsroom-and-events/blogs/2018/january/how-to-stop-a-print-stylesheet-slowing-down-your-web-page/
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Zegnat cc. petermolnar, you have a print stylesheet right?
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tantek wat
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Zegnat Apparently some browsers (including Firefox) will wait with rendering until CSS is downloaded. But they will also wait for print stylesheets :(
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[kevinmarks] Monocle, monoculture - the difference is utur
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aaronpk -ch
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aaronpk oops
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Zegnat Those emoji look exactly the same to me
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aaronpk me too
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aaronpk one is %F0%9F%A4%A6%E2%80%8D%E2%99%82 and the other is %F0%9F%A4%A6%E2%80%8D
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Zegnat tantek, I think that’s still wrong. You moved Facepalm-ZWJ-man to Facepalm-ZWJ
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Zegnat Still a unicode point too much
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tantek oh I thought I got it down to one
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Zegnat Run Loqi’s move message through https://r12a.github.io/apps/conversion/ to see all the codepoints
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Zegnat Can also use that page to get the percent encoding directly.
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Zegnat That’s a URL to put in the Unicode folder of your bookmarks. If you don’t have a Unicode folder in your bookmarks yet, you might want to start one 😉
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tantek better Zegnat ?
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[eddie] cleverdevil Ahhh, I figured it out. Known is still using application/x-www-form-urlencoded as the response type in the token endpoint
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[eddie] I’ll add that in as a temporary stop-gap and I’ll file an issue with Known to update to the current standard