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[kevinmarks] [manton] - a like becoming a post, insofar as it notfies others and can be seen, is a common pattern on silos - Google Reader, Facebook and Twitter have all done this in effect
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[kevinmarks] the trickier problem is combining the POSSE toggle with a like.
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[eddie] [kevinmarks] I think manton’s concern is more along the lines of a person’s blog becoming filled with “Liked X page” without them realizing that would happen. Because if the blog doesn’t support a like post, and does fallback behavior, that is what they would get.
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[kevinmarks] Ah, I see that problem, yes.
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[kevinmarks] Well, a star/heart emoji might be a better fallback
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[kevinmarks] Per http://www.kevinmarks.com/notinourstars.html
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Loqi Not in our Stars 2015-11-08
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tantek that wouldn't be terribly accessible.
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tantek plus a bunch of floating hearts wouldn't really mean much either
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tantek "likes xyz" is the kind of text that FB alredy shows in people's activities etc.
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tantek so I'm not sure I agree with the concern about "without them realizing that would happen"
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tantek because the behavior is close enough to existing UI conventions that it's unlikely to be a surprise if much
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[kevinmarks] Today I have been converting a image based table layout into grid, and then to flexbox.
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[kevinmarks] (flexbox because I couldn't work out how to make the grid scale to fit width).
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KartikPrabhu [kevinmarks]: fr unit?
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[manton] On the like-of fallback, I think it's great that it exists, but a fallback is by definition not the best user experience. That's where I think discovering what a server supports can help.
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tantek [manton]: I disagree with the "by definition" assumption
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tantek in this case, the fallback is actually based on analyzing "like" activity text from existing social media
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tantek and while "existing social media" may not be "the best user experience", it is nonetheless "good enough" to bother worrying about in practice when building a replacement
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tantek that is, parity in that aspect is sufficient, because there are plenty of advantages in other areas
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tantek to *not* bother worrying about :)
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tantek and in this specific case, perhaps "fallback" is not the best framing, as it is more like "plain text version", or as a more concrete example, "tweet equivalent", i.e. what would be posted to Twitter if you checked the "[x] crosspost to Twitter" button in whatever app/silo you were using to post.
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tantek (evidence: nearly every social site/app has a "auto-post to Twitter" option for every thing you do, and such auto-posts naturally post some plain text equivalent to Twitter)
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tantek (and people *use them*)
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tantek which I take as evidence that the UX of a providing a plain text equivalent is good enough, since people are actually *choosing* to do so
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[manton] Yeah, "text version" is maybe a more accurate description of what is happening. Although I think "fallback" also describes it. Anyway, what we call it doesn't really matter too much... My concern is just what the user sees and whether it fits their expectations.
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tantek There are enough other places where a "text version" is "expected" (e.g. RSS) that it's been reasonably normalized.
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[manton] Without debating whether Micro.blog should have public likes, which is a separate discussion, the fact is it doesn't have them right now. So let's say someone is using Micro.blog for years and then downloads Indigenous and all of a sudden a new "like" button appears! It's unexpected. I don't think the user will know what it will do.
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tantek I think a better way to view likes etc as "upgrading" people's UX
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tantek ah that's a different but related question for sure
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tantek whether a client chooses to show buttons for different "kinds" of posts, not necessarily knowing how well a server "supports" them
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aaronpk that's the core of this issue
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tantek the assumption is that all servers at least support plain text notes, like Twitter
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aaronpk is happy this discussion is grounded in UX
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[manton] I see... Yeah, all servers should absolutely support plain text notes. But I view "like-of" and "bookmark-of" (and others) as special cases. Not just a simple plain text note.
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tantek so if people's expectations are that "posting to micro.blog" (from whatever client) are similar to "posting to Twitter", then plain text expectations are already there
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tantek [manton] my point above about cross-posting from other services is that they are *not* special cases in practice, with users, with existing services
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tantek that is, people do things like cross-post from YouTube when they like a video
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tantek and that shows up as a plain text tweet
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tantek and that's *ok*
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tantek similarly from bookmarking services
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tantek there's likely more research/documentation we can do there (specific examples from specific bookmarking services cross-posting what text to Twitter)
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tantek but it's that research that should inform our opinions on this rather than abstractly viewing different kinds as special
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tantek (e.g. internet scales reporting people's weighings are plain text, even though a "weight post" is arguably a very special case)
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tantek *as plain text
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tantek Swarm checkins, sleep reports, etc. the list goes on. every special "kind" of post has plain text equivalents figured out that people are using actively on Twitter
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tantek and that they're *ok with*, most importantly, thus expectations are ok
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tantek (in other news, I'm at the point where I have to read the Bridgy Publish to GitHub instructions)
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[manton] Weight posts and RSVPs and things like that are much closer to real posts, though. Likes and bookmarks are more like actions you take on a post.
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tantek ah, responses
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tantek what is a response
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Loqi responses, or interactions, in the context of the indieweb, refer to all the different ways and things people explicitly do to and with others’s posts, from written replies to quick likes, in other words responses = replies + reactions https://indieweb.org/response
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tantek though RSVPs *are* actions you take on a post.
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tantek though an RSVP+comment can be more substantial
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[manton] Somewhat related, the way reacji's are handled makes a lot of sense to me.
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tantek you mean even as reacjweets?
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[manton] I'm not sure what reacjweets are. 🙂
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tantek what is a reacjweet
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Loqi A reacjweet is a reacji posted as a tweet https://indieweb.org/reacjweet
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[manton] Yeah, that too... I think the fallback is a lot more natural for reacji.
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tantek (on that other thread, now reading https://brid.gy/about#github-issue-comment )
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tantek hmm I'm a bit surprised to see that all replies to a repo are treated as issues
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tantek isn't a pull request another kind of reply to a repo?
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tantek I liked aaronpk's idea of replying to the /issues page itself as a way to create a new issue
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tantek to *a repo's* /issues page itelf
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tantek *itself
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tantek perhaps a pull request has so much additional structure that that will require far more markup than just a /reply so we don't have to worry about distinguishing them for now?
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aaronpk considers making a repo for micropub extensions in the indieweb org in order to have a place to discuss them better
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aaronparecki.com edited /Micropub-extensions (+83) "/* Slug */ add link to github issues" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /Micropub-extensions (+358) "add links to github issues, move mp-destination to server command" (view diff)
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aaronpk I think this will work out nicely https://github.com/indieweb/micropub-extensions/projects
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ludovicchabant hey there! so after adding basic micropub support to my blog engine, I'm moving on to webmention... I find that when I receive a webmention, besides the checks required/recommended by the spec, I need to also do a few other things like scrub the source page to figure out who mentioned me, and a summary/text blurb of their post, so I can display it like a comment under my own post... are there libs or other resources I can use
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ludovicchabant to do that?
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ludovicchabant even if there's no lib that does the work for me, any resource that gives best practices would be useful -- I find myself scratching my head at the various p-author/h-card/u-photo things I can find at the source URL, and what to do with them
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tantek ludovicchabant: you can start with using post type discovery to figure out what kind of webmention it is
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tantek also more on indieweb.org/comments
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ludovicchabant ah great, that's what I was looking for, thanks tantek
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tantek no problem! and welcome!
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loqi.me created /Periscope (+129) "prompted by chrisaldrich and dfn added by chrisaldrich" (view diff)
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ludovicchabant interesting -- the webmention spec doesn't specify where the hyperlink should be on the source page, so it's possible a page mentions one of my posts, but that mention lives outside of their `h-entry`
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ludovicchabant this is the case for webmention.io test mentions for instance
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tantek yes that is possible, though unlikely
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ludovicchabant webmention.rocks, I mean
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tantek well looks like I need to add more debugging / testing code to verify some of the GitHub reply specific code-path I've got.
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ludovicchabant you can get mentions from GitHub?
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KartikPrabhu ludovicchabant: webmention is pretty agnostic about microformats so there could just be a simple link to you site. The microformats only comes in when you want to process the webmention to get data
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tantek ludovicchabant: and indirectly you can get mentions from various content silos / social media sites - specifically if you POSSE to them, you can get responses to those POSSE copies
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tantek I'm working on the first part of that with GitHub, POSSEing to GitHub issues
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tantek well at least my issue comment looks ok on my site http://tantek.com/2018/050/t1/authorize-bridgy-prompt
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] The “Authorize Bridgy” prompt page has a big green button that says to “Authorize snarfed” which seems a bit incongrous.It would be better for branding/trust reasons if this prompt for Bridgy could use the github.com/bridgy organization, and ... https://indieweb.org/images/1/1d/2018-02-09-github-bridgy-auth-snarfed.png
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aaronpk That's a good use of the Bridgy organization
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aaronpk Do you have to have an organization to get that prompt to look different tho? I thought there was a way with just an app
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tantek I don't know
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tantek and speaking of different prompt, that's exactly where I'm currently stuck in my UI
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tantek which doesn't look any different that if I was going to POSSE to Twitter or GitHub, so despite by backend possibly doing the right thing, now I *really* have to update the front-end to communicate *where* a post will be POSSEd to
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tantek I knew there was going to be extra work with this particular POSSE destination
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tantek alright, updated my posting UI so it makes it clear when POSSEing to Twitter or not (omitting character count / elllipsing if not), and at the same time added confirmation of what type of post it is publishing (article, note, reply etc.)
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tantek now to see how Bridgy Publish to GitHub fails when I haven't auth'd Bridgy yet
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tantek (for GitHub)
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tantek silent failure (so I could be better reporting an error message), but no weird tweets or any other side effects AFAIK
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tantek now to see what happens after authorizing
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tantek and retrying
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tantek and posted! https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/333#issuecomment-366872578
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Loqi [tantek] The “Authorize Bridgy” prompt page has a big green button that says to “Authorize snarfed” which seems a bit incongrous. It would be better for branding/trust reasons if this prompt for Bridgy could use the github.com/bridgy organization, a...
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tantek only weird thing - the image didn't come through
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snarfed ooh images, you may be the first to test that
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tantek ok so I have basic (text) POSSEing replies to issues on GitHub working thanks to GitHub!
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tantek I mean thanks to Bridgy!
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tantek bridgy++
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tantek snarfed++
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tantek yes, snarfed, I figured why not try something interesting with my first reply :)
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snarfed congrats!
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tantek that was A LOT of code reworking and I ended up simplifying a bunch of code and a few minor frontend posting UI improvements as well
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tantek the next test will be to see if I've broken any "normal" (previously working) posting :) but that'll have to wait til I get home
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tantek and then I'll try publishing a new issue to GitHub - that *should* work too with the code I've written so far but we'll see
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snarfed btw i expect the "silent" failure, wm to bridgy publish without a github account, was a 400 with a descriptive error message. feel free to let me know if not!
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[tantek] Yes I should write code to check that, de-auth and try again
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[tantek] LMK if there’s something special I should be doing to make the img work
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snarfed nah, i expect just not supported yet
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[tantek] Interesting, the “github.com/bridgy” also wasn’t linked
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snarfed definitely not explicitly, but lots of things are silo-independent, so i half hoped that would magically work
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snarfed (that was re img)
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[tantek] Whereas I have it explicitly linked in my post
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[tantek] Though the line breaks are there so at least those made it through
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[tantek] Snarfed, re: img I had expected that Bridgy would need to do explicit HTML to GitHub markdown translation
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snarfed yup! which definitely isn't implemented yet.
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[tantek] Got it. No problem. I’ll do some experimenting.
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snarfed surprisingly some pretty nontrivial formatting in eddie's issue made it through. interesting. https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/02/14/5/reply/ to https://github.com/microdotblog/issues/issues/75
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Loqi [Eddie Hinkle] Adding support for cross-site replies
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snarfed ...which is html2text at work. which is good, so i'm surprised it doesn't also do markdown style images. no matter.
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tantek and links for that matter
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ludovicchabant w00t! thanks to mf2py I now have some seemingly working webmention handling and comment display on my blog posts \o/
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Loqi :D
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ludovicchabant (well, locally)
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ludovicchabant it's nice when bots cheer you up
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[kevinmarks] As html2text was the original markdown implementation
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Zegnat ludovicchabant, what version of mf2py are you using? (Anyone know if we should be recommending KartikPrabhu’s fork?)
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Zegnat Wow, how did I miss this, they are thinking about bringing JS to AMP?! https://github.com/ampproject/amphtml/issues/13471
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Loqi [choumx] #13471 JS in AMP
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Zegnat [insert-facepalm-emoji]
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aaronpk and also putting it in gmail
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Zegnat Oh, I wonder if that change might cary over to ampmail (mailamp? What was it called?) That would then open the gate to JavaScript-in-email-in-Gmail
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aaronpk yes that was the main criticism of bringing amp to email
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aaronpk https://blog.fastmail.com/2018/02/14/email-is-your-electronic-memory/
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ludovicchabant Zegnat: can’t remember which version I’m using exactly but it’s the one you get when you install the package with pip
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KartikPrabhu ludovicchabant: the pip is v1.0.5 . we are working on adding some updates to it and push a new version. 1.0.5 works nicely for most cases though
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KartikPrabhu ludovicchabant: also a tip "pip freeze" will output all the installed libs and their versions
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snarfed !tell cleverdevil re https://chat.indieweb.org/2018-02-20#t1519096584014700 , yes! in the library, if you have an FB API object in `post`, just run `microformats2.object_to_json(facebook.post_to_object(post))`. more in the docs: https://granary.readthedocs.io/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [[cleverdevil]] [snarfed] does granary have any utility functions I could leverage to convert a mass export from Facebook?
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snarfed !tell cleverdevil for a mass dump, should be easy to throw that in a loop that reads from file(s), or in a python -c ... command
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[cleverdevil] Thanks, [snarfed] 🙂
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Loqi [cleverdevil]: snarfed left you a message 1 hour, 42 minutes ago: re https://chat.indieweb.org/2018-02-20#t1519096584014700 , yes! in the library, if you have an FB API object in `post`, just run `microformats2.object_to_json(facebook.post_to_object(post))`. more in the docs: https://granary.readthedocs.io/
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Loqi [cleverdevil]: snarfed left you a message 1 hour, 41 minutes ago: for a mass dump, should be easy to throw that in a loop that reads from file(s), or in a python -c ... command
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@Blot__ @jobsonnentag @kevinmarks @desparoz And can you send me a link to a page on your site with the webmentions? I will write the JS which shows them on the page for you (twitter.com/_/status/965990200995442689)
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[cleverdevil] That worked *perfectly* [snarfed]!
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[cleverdevil] The only caveat is that granary doesn't work for me in Python 3.6, so I had to fall back to 2.7 😛
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KartikPrabhu [cleverdevil]: woah! so you exported all of your FB to mf2?
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[cleverdevil] Yup, and I only had to write like... 10 lines of code 🙂
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aaronpk wow
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KartikPrabhu wow! you should release that as a library or something. seems very useful
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KartikPrabhu cleverdevil++
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[cleverdevil] I'll make a gist.
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KartikPrabhu what is facebook?
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Loqi Facebook is a popular content hosting silo and activity aggregator most well known for being the largest centralized social network on the web https://indieweb.org/Facebook
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KartikPrabhu [cleverdevil]: and maybe add to https://indieweb.org/Facebook#How_to_export_your_data
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[cleverdevil] Next up, I will need to see if this data publishes cleanly to my Known instance.
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[cleverdevil] (huge kudos to [snarfed] for granary, which really is the swiss army knife of the IndieWeb!)
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[cleverdevil] snarfed++
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snarfed [cleverdevil]: aww thanks!
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snarfed yeah sorry about no python 3 support in granary. been working on porting it forever. close now! it's been a big challenge though.
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snarfed whee
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KartikPrabhu yeah python2 is going to be deprecated in a few months or so
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[cleverdevil] No worries.
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snarfed [cleverdevil]: btw there are type-specific conversion fns (event_to_object, album_to_object, etc) if you have different files for different types, or know which type at runtime
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snarfed docs: https://granary.readthedocs.io/en/latest/source/granary.html#granary.facebook.Facebook.comment_to_object
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[cleverdevil] Yeah, this tool I used to generate exports creates a posts.json and an albums.json
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[cleverdevil] My script seemed to work great on both.
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snarfed 👍
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[cleverdevil] https://gist.github.com/cleverdevil/f33530706d6e8dacd13a8bd8e8c15dba
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[cleverdevil] That's it.
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[cleverdevil] Suuuuuper easy.
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snarfed [cleverdevil]++
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[cleverdevil] I'm gonna change it to generate a whole bunch of individual files in a directory that are named by the timestamp.
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[cleverdevil] That way, I can start testing on individual posts.
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[cleverdevil] I have a feeling that the limitations of Known's micropub endpoint are going to be the issue from here on out.
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[cleverdevil] Hah, yup.
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[cleverdevil] I published a post exported from 2007 and Known shows it with a publish date of *today*.
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[cleverdevil] Sigh.
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[kevinmarks] That feels like an unmung addition
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[kevinmarks] If python 2 is being deprecated, Google needs to get python 3 running on appengine
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[kevinmarks] They have had most of the core committers there for over 10 years
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snarfed [kevinmarks]: yup. one of the longest running issues on their tracker. :P flex has supported 3 for years, and they've been working on getting 3 into standard for years. i know they do plan to ship it.
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snarfed https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/35876441
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snarfed but yeah, way overdue
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snarfed ugh twitter is rate limiting granary's block list API fetches. whee
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aaronpk lolsob
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[cleverdevil] I would seriously pay someone like a grand to completely rewrite the Known IndiePub plugin to work right.
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[kevinmarks] Don't try it on Kelly's, she has over 300,000
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snarfed [kevinmarks]: oh yes, i'm sadly familiar. https://github.com/snarfed/granary/blob/master/granary/twitter.py#L570-L572
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Zegnat ... that's an interesting proposal [cleverdevil]
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[cleverdevil] 🙂
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snarfed bounties++
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[cleverdevil] FWIW, I am actually working in the background with [benwerd] on setting something up like this.
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[cleverdevil] Known is a much simpler foundation to start from than WordPress to create an easy path to an Indieweb site.
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Zegnat Speaking as a jobless PHP developer with an IndieWeb interest ... 😇
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[cleverdevil] Hah, well, that sounds great. Once I get everything in place, I will absolutely let you know!
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[cleverdevil] Probably in the next month.
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Zegnat If you are doing some planning on separate tasks and things, I would probably recommend splitting IndieAuth off of the Micropub implementation as well.
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[cleverdevil] Agreed.
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[cleverdevil] Honestly, with my latest changes, IndieAuth *mostly* works.
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snarfed [cleverdevil]: ooh new known work and structure sounds great. let me know if i can help, sponsoring or org or anything else (except code :P)
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[cleverdevil] The main thing left there is the management of tokens, which currently is really nasty.
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snarfed [cleverdevil]++ for so much work in so many places recently!
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[cleverdevil] [snarfed] awesome, that'd be great! I am hoping to have some money freeing up in Q2 to really pour into the effort.
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[cleverdevil] Thanks 🙂
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snarfed.org uploaded /File:twitter_block_list_web.png "twitter block list web ui https://indieweb.org/File:twitter block list web.png"
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Zegnat If you all just rise enough money to employ me over summer break, that would be swell 😉
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Zegnat s/rise/raise/
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Zegnat I saw you made a PR on known [cleverdevil] ! Haven't checked that out yet. Was busy adding 2FA to my own IndieAuth.
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[cleverdevil] I made a bunch, actually 🙂
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[cleverdevil] Fixed so many IndieAuth things that were bugging me.
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[cleverdevil] Micropub needs more of a rewrite, IMO, and that's a bit bigger than my PHP capabilities and time right now.
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Zegnat The biggest challenge is coming up with an API so new plugins for custom post types can leverage Micropub. I had some ideas about it but felt all of them needed too much reworking for me to do it over a weekend.
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snarfed Zegnat: hah. we struggled with the exact same thing in wordpress. finally figured it out, but haven't implemented yet. https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub/issues/85#issuecomment-359293683
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Loqi [snarfed] i'm repurposing this issue for the big new redesign we want to do for coordinating with other plugins and themes that render mf2 data. (@dshanske, please holler if you think i shouldn't!) we're going to implement @kraftbj's design sketch in https:...
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[cleverdevil] Yes, I totally agree @Zegnat. That's where i get out of my depth. I know precisely how I'd do it in Python, but not so much in PHP.
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Zegnat Oh, let me read the WP discussion, might have some ideas for Known :)
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Zegnat So one of the things that WP already seems to be doing, that Known isn’t doing but I wish it did, is that it stores the submitted mf2.
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[cleverdevil] Yes, 100%.
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snarfed yup that was definitely a good call way back when
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Zegnat I’d love to modify Known to use mf2 to store its posts internally. But currently it does PTD on the mf2 first, converts it to one of their post-type-classes, and that post-type-class gets stored.
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Zegnat When I came to the conclusion that changing the storage format was the first thing on the agenda, I tapped out. As I am not using Known myself and wouldn’t manage that in a weekend as a little side project to help other people out
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[cleverdevil] One of my longer term goals would be to actually make it possible to store everything on-disk as mf2, with some smart index files, eliminating the need for a database entirely.
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[cleverdevil] But, that's sort of a personal/pet issue, not really relevant to the Indieweb goals.
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[cleverdevil] Priority one, IMO, is to make Known 100% the most compliant and complete implementation of IndieWeb standards.
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snarfed there is a partial or complete known flat file backend, right?
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[cleverdevil] Not that I know of, snarfed.
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snarfed huh ok. maybe i was mistaken. ben would know i guess
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[cleverdevil] I absolutely could be wrong.
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Zegnat I think Known has an odd db design. But that seems to have some legacy reasons.
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Zegnat I would love to sit down and talk with some people who actually use Known as their daily driver and see what they think. Completely with you [cleverdevil] that it would be lovely to have Known super compliant!
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Zegnat (I actually always thought more of Knowns internals were IndieWeb.)
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[cleverdevil] It basically is that way because they started with MongoDB, and then shoved things into MySQL.
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[cleverdevil] So... its really super weird.
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[cleverdevil] It is also very slow for a lot of things as a result.
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snarfed !tell tantek thanks for the nudge on bridgy's github auth prompt. i was reluctant because i didn't want to move the repo, but realized i could just use the org for the app. prompt now says "Authorize bridgy"! https://snarfed.org/github_bridgy_org_auth.png
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk yay that's better
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Loqi :D
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snarfed tantedk++
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snarfed tantek++ argh
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snarfed mildly deceptive UI sugar, whee :P
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[cleverdevil] Yup!
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[eddie] [cleverdevil] I also saw that mapkyca resolved an issue I filed in Known. The token endpoint now returns JSON instead of urlencoded. Yay for standard compliance!
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[cleverdevil] Of course, now Likes are broken for me in Micropub, LOL.
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[eddie] oh no!
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[cleverdevil] (Opened a new issue for that)
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[cleverdevil] Not sure its related at all, though.
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[cleverdevil] I haven't had a chance to dig into it.
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[kevinmarks] Known stores json in MySQL iirc, so you could stuff in mf2 json
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[kevinmarks] As I recall this was deliberate to avoid schema churn
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[cleverdevil] Yup.
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[kevinmarks] Using this technique https://backchannel.org/blog/friendfeed-schemaless-mysql
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aaronpk that's essentially what I do for my site too except my canonical data is stored in files instead of another table
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Zegnat Yep, I don’t really have anything against that pattern. I just wish Known would sture the mf2 json in there, instead of a serialised post-type class
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[kevinmarks] You could possibly store both and gradually change over.
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loqi.me edited /JSON (+135) "Zegnat added "[https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7493 RFC7493 The I-JSON Message Format]: ''Internet JSON'' for interoperability between JSON parsers" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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[kevinmarks] Except it doesn't define duplicate key behaviour
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[cleverdevil] Haha! https://cleverdevil.io/2007/thrilled-to-have-booked-tickets-for-the
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Loqi [Jonathan LaCour] thrilled to have booked tickets for the Miami - GT game on his birthday weekend!
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Loqi awesome
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[cleverdevil] An imported post from 2007 Facebook.
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[cleverdevil] (Had to fix a bug in Known)
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sknebel [kevinmarks]: "Objects in I-JSON messages MUST NOT have members with duplicate names. "
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@netsensei @swentel Go! Go! GO! https://www.netsensei.be/2018/02/20/webmentions/ and https://www.netsensei.be/2018/02/17/thought-spaces/ (twitter.com/_/status/966039055732527105)
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dgold may I ask a question of the collective?
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dgold I'm trying micropub.rocks Client Test
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dgold I'm failing on json-structure post with: "The 0 Parameter was not provided as an array"
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dgold my json structure as indicated in the test is:
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dgold {"type":["h-entry"],"properties":["content",["This is a test message."]]}
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@nitishchpr RT netsensei: swentel Go! Go! GO! https://www.netsensei.be/2018/02/20/webmentions/ and https://www.netsensei.be/2018/02/17/thought-spaces/ (twitter.com/_/status/966046247952973824)
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aaronpk Try {"content".. instead of [
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aaronpk Actually [{"content"...
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KartikPrabhu yeah properties is a dictionary
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aaronpk you're missing a dictionary there
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aaronpk ack I keep messing it up on my phone
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aaronpk properties needs to be a dictionary
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aaronpk the value of content needs to be an array
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dgold ah... damnation :)
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aaronpk {"properties":{"content":["hello"]}} ... if you need an example then use the output of an mf2 parser
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dgold yes, I see that now I look at the server sample code
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dgold dyslexia is awesome when it comes to flipping {[{
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@Dries @swentel @netsensei Have you looked at https://webmention.io and https://brid.gy? (twitter.com/_/status/966048820810350594)
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@nitishchpr swentel netsensei Have you looked at https://webmention.io and https://brid.gy? (twitter.com/_/status/966051296741609472)
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@jobsonnentag @Blot__ @kevinmarks @desparoz I apologize upfront for my newbness, but neither. The JS from WMIO to retrieve webmentions needs a target url. I thought I could pass in the {{url}} tag by itself, inside the WBIO JS, which would sit head of my entry.html. This didn’t work so I tossed in a static URL for testing. (twitter.com/_/status/966053841425793030)
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snarfed for anyone here signed up for github on bridgy, backfeed (aka listen) is available to beta test if you want! you can turn it on your user page
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snarfed not complete yet, best effort so far
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snarfed no loud announcements pls, soft launching :P
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@jobsonnentag @Blot__ @kevinmarks @desparoz OMG! Yes! Super excited! Thank you! I took out the code on Friday, since I couldn’t get it working correctly. Put it all back in place though now. http://obejay.blot.im/live-for-the-applause – should have 4 webmentions sent to it. (twitter.com/_/status/966054872930951168)
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[eddie] github backfeed.png https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-F9C0AH38B/screen_shot_2018-02-20_at_4.03.12_pm.png?pub_secret=a6c2409916&name=Screen Shot 2018-02-20 at 4.03.12 PM.png
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[eddie] snarfed: hmmm, is that correct? 👆
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snarfed heh, that's what comes of being promiscuous with webmentions
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snarfed probably technically yes, they're sent as mentions, not replies, if they're not on your own domain
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[eddie] okay :thumbsup: just wanted to make sure
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[eddie] Beta testing and all 😄
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[eddie] https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-F9C2NCHA8/screen_shot_2018-02-20_at_4.05.44_pm.png?pub_secret=b1d9b3074a&name=Screen Shot 2018-02-20 at 4.05.44 PM.png
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[eddie] 💥
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[eddie] snarfed++
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[eddie] bridgy++
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snarfed woo!
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snarfed where is that? not on https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/02/14/5/reply/ ?
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Loqi [Eddie Hinkle] Adding support for cross-site replies
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[eddie] My site is jekyll so it hasn’t rebuilt yet
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[eddie] But my webmentions get forwarded into microsub
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snarfed ah ok
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[eddie] Yep, but the fact that it showed up means my site processed it and next rebuild they will appear
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[eddie] I used to rebuild on every webmention… and then I signed up for OwnYourSwarm…..
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[eddie] 😆
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aaronpk lol
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dgold ho! yes! I got a simple one line message to pass the micropub client 200 test.
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dgold in emacs
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dgold \o\ |o| /o/
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snarfed dgold: micropub in emacs!!!
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snarfed er dgold++
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snarfed dgold++ (wow)
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dgold (andyes, this is because I got flummoxed with swift and needed a night off)
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@elpep @llu_ne @tomekmusic @franckpaul @grignotages @Lnss Je pense introduire une pincée de webmentions dans la v2 en cours d’année. Mais sans doute limitée à fournir l’équivalent des rétro liens dans un premier temps. (twitter.com/_/status/966077221612945410)
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