#@dubberOccurs to me that rather than build a new Facebook, this would be a really good moment for someone to create an RSS reader that emulated a timeline and featured in-line comments. I’d probably post on my blog pretty much daily if that was the thing everyone used. (twitter.com/_/status/976139810317438976)
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#KartikPrabhu"[...]if that was the thing everyone used."
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#aaronpki ran phpmyopenid on my website for a while, but I never understood what that code actually did. the only reason I had my own OpenID was because someone made a one-file PHP script for it.
#aaronpkalso the terminology of all the pieces was so confusing
#tantekbut that was just to use your site as an openid, which you could do more easily by delegation
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#tantekconsuming OpenID required a multifile PHP library that was confusing as heck
#aaronpktrue, but you should expect nothing less than me not wanting to delegate that part of openid to a service I couldn't pay for (e.g. myopenid.com)
#tantekconsuming relmeauth you could/can do with a one-file PHP script
#tantekdifferent expectations for different users, whether not wanting to delegate to a service, or not wanting to admin tax of maintaining your own 2FA
#tantekselfdogfood << Beware of this trap: "only the people who wrote it can reliably use it" that OpenID fell into per twitter.com/elforesto/status/976177015958261762
#Loqiok, I added "Beware of this trap: "only the people who wrote it can reliably use it" that OpenID fell into per twitter.com/elforesto/status/976177015958261762" to the "See Also" section of /selfdogfood
#LoqiIt looks like we don't have a page for "Webstagram" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Webstagram is ____", a sentence describing the term)
#cweiskeZegnat, indieauth is possible with a one-file php script.
#cweiskerel-me also requires the oauth thingies that the linked identities on the silos need, so 1 file is not possible
#ZegnatI wrote most of the one-file PHP IndieAuth solution, so I know. This was specifically meant about relmeauth, as that’s what tantek is using and seemed to be refering to
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#jeremycherfas!tell aaronpk looking into my problem with Quill not getting syndication targets from WithKnown again. Cweiske pointed out that ?q=syndicate-to gets the correct response, while ?=config seems to get nothing. is there anything I should check in Known, or might this be something to do with Quill?
#Loqinanopub is a micropub-endpoint for use with Hugo (but should work with any static site generator) written by Daniel Goldsmith https://indieweb.org/nanopub
#petermolnarthere is an mfArray function; I think hijacking that could make it work with nearly any static generator
#cweiske"Markup generators may specify a generator-unable-to-provide-required-alt
#cweiskeattribute on img elements for which they have been unable to obtain a text alternative and for which they have therefore omitted the alt attribute."
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#dgoldpetermolnar: that's what I was going to say!
#dgoldthat's the core function of nanopub's SSG element
#dgoldthat's why its cut out of the array_replace_keys() function
#skippyi've been fiddling with nanopub this week. Only just realized that because I run PHP in a container, that container has no easy way to invoke hugo to rebuild the site...
#skippyi could cook up a cron job to check for new files on the host; but that means that micropub clients wont be able to resolve the 201 link from nanopub because the target wont exist yet.
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#[eddie]dgold: what specifics do you like about Unread? It’s one of the “inspiration feed readers” I have on my phone to inspire Indigenous development, so it’d be good to know what features about it you really like
#dgold[eddie]: hmm, hard to put into words, but I'll try
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#dgoldI love the 'non-standard' gesture-based navigation, makes me feel like I'm interacting with it
#dgoldi like the dark-mode reading, because I can read it inobtrusively
#dgoldi like that it strips away any semblance of interface, leaving _just_ the words you're reading
#[eddie]That makes sense. Definitely a major thing. The beauty of the text in unread it remarkable
#[eddie]The gestures are nice. That may be one thing I try to shy away from currently just because it seems like they aren’t super intuitive. It took me a little while to figure them out.
#[eddie]I definitely like the reduction of UI in the app though. Something I might have to think through if I’m not implementing the gestures
#[eddie]This is all great to think through with more than just my own thoughts, so thanks for sharing!
#[eddie]I currently have unread, lire, feeder and fiery feeds as my research apps
#[eddie]As far as I can tell those four are the best in class iOS readers
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#skippycurious if anyone has clever solutions to making nanopub work in a Dockerized PHP context?
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#dgoldskippy: I'm not fully au fait with containerized systems
#LoqiIt looks like we don't have a page for "incron" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "incron is ____", a sentence describing the term)
#sknebelslightly ugly, but you could just add hugo to your container and run it in there?
#sknebelor make something that triggers hugo from an HTTP request
#dgoldincron is an "inotify cron" system, run as a daemon on unix-compatible systems. Controlled by a similar method to cron, except it deals with filesystem events rather than time periods.
#tantek.comedited /content_management_system (+244) "/* Examples */ -- is better than nn for unknown, p3k is PHP and used by aaronpk, plus if Ghost can be here with zero users, Falcon can be here with one :)" (view diff)
#LoqiGrav is a flat-file CMS built on PHP, with Twig templating, and YAML + Markdown for storing articles (YAML for metadata, Markdown for the content) https://indieweb.org/Grav
#tantekjeremycherfas: is it private or open source?
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#swentel2. I need an account on a microsub server to really start testing this
#swentelso I'd be nice if I could have an account on aperture
#swentel1. the header link om my site needs to point to microsub server (I first thought that it should return feeds)
#swentel[eddie], so yeah, I have some questions, but I think I have it more or less figured out
#Loqiswentel: [eddie] left you a message 49 minutes ago: What questions do you have about Microsub?
#Loqiswentel: [eddie] left you a message 49 minutes ago: What questions do you have about Microsub?
#Loqiswentel: [eddie] left you a message 1 week ago: regarding tokens, etc. not optimal but how Indigenous handles it currently is when you log out, it will send a token revocation request. Besides that, it assumes tokens are valid, but will provide an error if your Micropub request has an authentication error. It is assumed for now that if you have an authentication error, you’ll log out and back in of Indigenous manually
#Loqiswentel: [eddie] left you a message 49 minutes ago: What questions do you have about Microsub?
#swentelone thing I'm not sure off, the watchtower on aperture, does it read the rel="feed" links of a site, so basically a page with microformatted content?
#Loqiswentel: [eddie] left you a message 49 minutes ago: What questions do you have about Microsub?
#sknebelaaronpk: whatever Loqi did there wasn't what it should do^^^
#aaronpki think there was some sort of IRC backlog
#Loqiaaronpk: jeremycherfas left you a message 4 hours, 14 minutes ago: looking into my problem with Quill not getting syndication targets from WithKnown again. Cweiske pointed out that ?q=syndicate-to gets the correct response, while ?=config seems to get nothing. is there anything I should check in Known, or might this be something to do with Quill?
#aaronpkyou can install aperture yourself if you want, and if you want to work on a client then I am happy to host an account for you. i'm not opening mine up to general signups right now though.
#swentelaaronpk, well, I'm working on the indigenous android so I'd be very handy :)
#Loqifeatured is a proposed mf2 property (typically as u-featured) for h-entry that indicates a representative image for a primarily textual post https://indieweb.org/u-featured
#jeremycherfasIndeed, and I have, for example, implemented display of webmentions from Pelle's app. But I'm not yet a strong enough coder to work either on the existing webmention plugin (aaronpk and I tried that at Nurnberg last year) or to set out on my own.
#jeremycherfasTheming Grav is also a bit complex, so adding mf2 is something I have mostly done in the twig files of my child theme.
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#Zegnatcweiske, ah, sorry, I thought you meant when using the Telegraph web app, which I thought did support that
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#[eddie]Hmmm, now that I have On This Day working to show posts that have occurred in the past, the thought comes to me that there are some posts that I might want to leave but might not want to be “reminded of”
#tantekeddie, I think some of that is captured in brainstorming
#Loqion this day is a feature on some silos and indieweb sites which show posts published on the current (typically Gregorian) day of the year in previous years; commons sites tend to show more general historical events that occurred on that same day https://indieweb.org/on_this_day
#aaronpki dont know how, but apparently i had just never been storing the photo property for received webmentions
#[eddie]Well since it seems like it’s an already known thing, I’ll try to resend the webmention and see if it works, because in the past that has worked for me
#[eddie]Ohhh okay, yeah no update. Changes must not have been deployed.